[OKC JUG] Dojo sometime soon?

Thu Jun 11 06:14:39 PDT 2009

I personally would like to support the CoCo as much as we can, so I my
vote is to have this at the CoCo.  Mark is very busy the next couple
of weeks, so I'm not sure if we could get a response from him for a
while (Ken and/or Michael is better at reaching him than I am).

I do not see a problem with the time, but I would also rule out
Wednesday nights.  So basically leaving Mon, Tues, and Thurs (assuming
people do not want this eating up into their weekend).  Derrick might
be able to provide more information on the days being available.

I'm all on board for the choices of languages, but this shouldn't be a
limiting factor, but merely a suggestion.  I would love to see what
other people are capable of, and introduce me to things such as
Haskell, Scala ...etc.

At least for getting this thing off the ground, I would rather be
given the problem so people could work on it a bit and start to get
into the groove.  As we 'mature' this along, then we could do more
problems fresh at the meeting.  I guess another option would be to
give out a problem in advanced but to also have somebody bring a
problem and have people solve it fresh.  I am heavily for TDD and I
would love to see how people used TDD practices while doing some of
the Euler problems (I've had a hard time grasping how to implement
these practices while doing some of Euler's problems).  I would *love*
to see how are using BDD, I have tried this privately while writing
some python code using pyspec.

If the problems get a little more involved we could also get a
FitNesse wiki set up for an acceptance testing framework (but the
languages are limited) ... but this is quite possibly waaaay down the
road.

How does everybody feel about three minute pair switching?  I do not
think this is enough time, I was thinking 10 as a minimum.  I'm asking
for experience and/or input here.

Any way we decide to go is fine with me, getting this thing off the
ground is what the most important aspect is.  We just need to pull the
trigger and go.  So I'll roll with whatever and retrospect while this
baby starts to grow (hopefully).

I'm glad to see people interested in this and I'm looking forward to
be put in my place :)

Chad

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Brett L. Schuchert<schuchert at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Derrick, et. al.,
>
> I'd be happy to start something. I would love a regular, multi-language
> dojo.
>
> I see three options for location:
>        Valtech - they have offered their space before (Kenyatta? Mark
> Smith?)
>        CoCo - this is separate from the OkC JUG as far as I can see, so $$
> for the space?
>        Public Libraries - depends on # people, but this has been a good
> option in the past
>
> I'd say some evening, from 5:30 PM to 9:00, people can come and go as they
> see fit.
>
> I propose next week. Are any nights out of the question other than Friday?
>
> Initial languages:
>        Java
>        C#
>        Ruby
>        C++
>        Java Script
>
> (I suggest we work on the same problem across the languages.)
>
> Any takers on that? I can propose a problem (or a few).
>
> We can:
>        Start from scratch
>        Begin somewhere "in the middle"
>        Use TDD (my preference)
>        Use BDD (or this would be cool as well)
>        Or not (I'm willing but much less interested)
>
> Here is one proposal from the above:
>        Monday, 5:30 - 9:00
>                5:30 - 6:00 meet and greet, set ground rules
>                6:00 - 8:30 dojo, one pair working, all else observing and
> commenting, pairs changing every 3 minutes
>                8:30 - 9:00 fish bowl
>        Location: Downtown Public Library
>        Java
>        Starting from scratch on a problem I'll bring
>                It will involve basic TDD as well as design patterns
>        Using TDD
>
> Brett
> On Jun 10, 2009, at 5:00 PM 6/10/09, derrick parkhurst wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Brett L. Schuchert<schuchert at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> After this week's presentation I'm Jonesin' for a code dojo. Anybody
>>> interested?
>>>
>>> We'd need a location and an overhead projector but I'd be happy to bring
>>> a
>>> problem and a computer we could work on.
>>>
>>> Brett
>>
>> I am. In fact, I encouraged Chad to start a dōjō out of the okcCoCo -
>> The CoCo Dōjō?. I could easily see community members taking on the
>> role of sensei for various programming languages. Let me know how I
>> can help get this started.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Derrick
>>
>> --
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