[OKC JUG] Reminder - meeting Tuesday, April 12th

[Paul Smith]

To quote some guy from a meeting last week.... "They are not tests.
They are checks."

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Brett L. Schuchert
<schuchert at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Might as well start the talk now...
> When using mock libraries, by default use "nice" or "not strict" mocks. Most
> of them default to strict mocks. The problem with this is that doing so
> makes the tests more fragile and dependent on incidental complexity rather
> than essential responsibility.
> So in the case of easy mocks, don't use "createMock" by default, instead
> prefer "createNiceMock". Only use createMock when you really want to verify
> all messages sent. This is actually a fringe case when doing focused unit
> tests. This is typically counter-intuitive. It only becomes clear as
> individuals move from tests with lots of checks to focused, single-check or
> single-logical-check based tests.
> OK, discuss...
> Brett
> On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:05 AM 4/11/11, Rupesh Bhochhibhoya wrote:
>
> I appreciate if you can demonstrate  examples with TDD/BDD. And also if you
> could show its advantages over EasyMock, that will be helpful too.
>
>
> Rupesh
>
> From: jug-bounces at lists.okcjug.org [mailto:jug-bounces at lists.okcjug.org] On
> Behalf Of Brett L. Schuchert
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:52 AM
> To: jug at lists.okcjug.org
> Subject: Re: [OKC JUG] Reminder - meeting Tuesday, April 12th
>
> Oh yeah, I suppose I should prep (mostly kidding).
>
> I already have a "story" for this presentation but I'm open to adjusting if
> anybody has anything in particular they'd like to me to cover. Just reply to
> this chain with request.
>
> One thing I will be demonstrating is overriding static methods with the tool
> - which is cool, too cool, but cool.
>
> Brett
> On Apr 11, 2011, at 10:35 AM 4/11/11, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
> We have a meeting tomorrow. We will be providing food and drinks this month
> thanks to MBO sponsoring again this year.
>
> Please go register http://okcjug.org/registration so we know how much food
> to get and who to pick from for the door prize.
>
> ·         Sponsor: MBO Partners
> ·         Speaker: Brett Schuchert
> ·         JMockit - Things you shouldn’t do when testing…
>
> Agenda
>
> ·         11:30 am – Welcome Announcements
> ·         11:40 am – Lightning Talks begin
> ·         12:40 pm – Wrap Up
>
> Presentation Information
>
> JMockIt is a powerful and easy (perhaps too easy) to use mocking tool that
> allows you to do things that defy logic. Examples include stubbing static
> methods, changing final classes and pretty much anything that byte code
> injection on the fly (per test) allows. We’ll look at some of those things
> along with more traditional test double creation and then discuss why on the
> one hand it is nice to have this power, on the other hand you should almost
> never use it.
>
> --
> Brian
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