[Steering Committee] What about Robert Martin to present in November?

[Jason Lee]

I think Ryan was joking.  I hope he was, as I have no idea what he's talking
about. :P

On 8/28/07, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I've forwarded this email on to Bob, so realize that I am neither
> evading or filtering the request from Bob.
> ----
> So how long has the submittal process involved using two forms?
>
> When did the process become a process?
>
> I'm confused at the need for a process, have we become so big that we
> need bureaucracy? Or it is more related to how we communicate and the
> fact that there's essentially a distributed group? (In reality, I'm
> really not part of the WE because I've never been to a steering
> committee meeting.) Did the APLN get their hands on the group somehow?
>
> What problems are these forms solving or what's the specific business
> value is added by having such forms?
>
> I know I am biased because I work for Bob, but he has been an
> industry-recognized leader for several years - long before I worked
> for him. Do we really need a presenter evaluation form for him?
> (Again, remember I forward this email on to Bob so I'm asking because
> it sounds silly to me but I'm also conforming so I really am questing
> the sanity of the request WHILE going along with the inmates.) BTW,
> if the answer is yes, we need to evaluate Bob Martin, then I suspect
> I better fill out the same documentation for the September
> presentation because if his 25+ years of experience, books, papers,
> numerous presentations and keynotes at several conferences as well as
> being one of the primaries on the Manifest of Agile Development does
> not immediately qualify him as a potential presenter, then my few
> talks at the JUG sure as hell should not qualify me for a talk since
> I have never filled out this form. And if I'm completely off basis on
> my interpretation of "Presenter Evaluation Form" then maybe it should
> be renamed.
>
> He's not going to care about any of this, he's very easy going. I
> really don't care about the specifics of asking Bob for these things.
> I'm really trying to get an understanding of what these two forms are
> doing when I've never seen nor heard of these things.
>
> Brett
>
> On Aug 28, 2007, at 4:49 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
> > Sounds good.  Do you have some topic proposals he can present to the
> > JUG Presentation Committee for approval?
> >
> > Jason, send him the Application to Propose a JUG Presentation Topic
> > and the Presenter Evaluation Form so we can start the process.
> >
> > On 8/28/07, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
> >> On 8/28/07, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> I'm checking his schedule but you think that might work?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Works for me.
> >>
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Jason Lee, SCJP
Software Architect -- Objectstream, Inc.
JSF RI Dev Team
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