[Steering Committee] What about Robert Martin to present in November?

[ryan hoegg]

Yes, I'm sorry.  I should have said "Application for Permission to
Propose a Topic for Consideration by the Esteemed Steering Committee"
:)

We'd love to have Bob.  What's he going to talk about?

On 8/28/07, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well if that's the case, then let me say "OUCH" as I remove the hook he so
> skillfully buried deep into my cheek!
>
> BTW, just taught the first day of our 3-day course on concurrency (which I
> will steal from for the September talk). Pretty smooth for a first-cut - not
> without bumps, but pretty solid so far.
>
> Brett
>
> On Aug 28, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Jason Lee wrote:
>
> I think Ryan was joking.  I hope he was, as I have no idea what he's talking
> about. :P
>
> On 8/28/07, Brett L. Schuchert < schuchert at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I've forwarded this email on to Bob, so realize that I am neither
> > evading or filtering the request from Bob.
> > ----
> > So how long has the submittal process involved using two forms?
> >
> > When did the process become a process?
> >
> > I'm confused at the need for a process, have we become so big that we
> > need bureaucracy? Or it is more related to how we communicate and the
> > fact that there's essentially a distributed group? (In reality, I'm
> > really not part of the WE because I've never been to a steering
> > committee meeting.) Did the APLN get their hands on the group somehow?
> >
> > What problems are these forms solving or what's the specific business
> > value is added by having such forms?
> >
> > I know I am biased because I work for Bob, but he has been an
> > industry-recognized leader for several years - long before I worked
> > for him. Do we really need a presenter evaluation form for him?
> > (Again, remember I forward this email on to Bob so I'm asking because
> > it sounds silly to me but I'm also conforming so I really am questing
> > the sanity of the request WHILE going along with the inmates.) BTW,
> > if the answer is yes, we need to evaluate Bob Martin, then I suspect
> > I better fill out the same documentation for the September
> > presentation because if his 25+ years of experience, books, papers,
> > numerous presentations and keynotes at several conferences as well as
> > being one of the primaries on the Manifest of Agile Development does
> > not immediately qualify him as a potential presenter, then my few
> > talks at the JUG sure as hell should not qualify me for a talk since
> > I have never filled out this form. And if I'm completely off basis on
> > my interpretation of "Presenter Evaluation Form" then maybe it should
> > be renamed.
> >
> > He's not going to care about any of this, he's very easy going. I
> > really don't care about the specifics of asking Bob for these things.
> > I'm really trying to get an understanding of what these two forms are
> > doing when I've never seen nor heard of these things.
> >
> > Brett
> >
> > On Aug 28, 2007, at 4:49 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds good.  Do you have some topic proposals he can present to the
> > > JUG Presentation Committee for approval?
> > >
> > > Jason, send him the Application to Propose a JUG Presentation Topic
> > > and the Presenter Evaluation Form so we can start the process.
> > >
> > > On 8/28/07, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
> > >> On 8/28/07, Brett L. Schuchert < schuchert at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>> I'm checking his schedule but you think that might work?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Works for me.
> > >>
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