[Steering Committee] What about Robert Martin to present in November?

Tue Aug 28 15:46:08 PDT 2007

Of late he's been giving talks related to software professionalism in  
different languages. Here's the one he's giving tonight at agile  
Houston:
	http://agilehouston.org/Main/CleanCodePart2

However, he's got a few. I'll talk to him tonight to see what he's  
got up his sleeve. I've also CC'd him so he can respond when he has  
enough time to stop recording videos for some training we're  
developing...

Brett

p.s. Bob, disregard that previous email. I should have figured out  
Ryan was being sarcastic, he's managed to rope me in on more than one  
occasion.

On Aug 28, 2007, at 5:37 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Yes, I'm sorry.  I should have said "Application for Permission to
> Propose a Topic for Consideration by the Esteemed Steering Committee"
> :)
>
> We'd love to have Bob.  What's he going to talk about?
>
> On 8/28/07, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Well if that's the case, then let me say "OUCH" as I remove the  
>> hook he so
>> skillfully buried deep into my cheek!
>>
>> BTW, just taught the first day of our 3-day course on concurrency  
>> (which I
>> will steal from for the September talk). Pretty smooth for a first- 
>> cut - not
>> without bumps, but pretty solid so far.
>>
>> Brett
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Jason Lee wrote:
>>
>> I think Ryan was joking.  I hope he was, as I have no idea what  
>> he's talking
>> about. :P
>>
>> On 8/28/07, Brett L. Schuchert < schuchert at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I've forwarded this email on to Bob, so realize that I am neither
>>> evading or filtering the request from Bob.
>>> ----
>>> So how long has the submittal process involved using two forms?
>>>
>>> When did the process become a process?
>>>
>>> I'm confused at the need for a process, have we become so big  
>>> that we
>>> need bureaucracy? Or it is more related to how we communicate and  
>>> the
>>> fact that there's essentially a distributed group? (In reality, I'm
>>> really not part of the WE because I've never been to a steering
>>> committee meeting.) Did the APLN get their hands on the group  
>>> somehow?
>>>
>>> What problems are these forms solving or what's the specific  
>>> business
>>> value is added by having such forms?
>>>
>>> I know I am biased because I work for Bob, but he has been an
>>> industry-recognized leader for several years - long before I worked
>>> for him. Do we really need a presenter evaluation form for him?
>>> (Again, remember I forward this email on to Bob so I'm asking  
>>> because
>>> it sounds silly to me but I'm also conforming so I really am  
>>> questing
>>> the sanity of the request WHILE going along with the inmates.) BTW,
>>> if the answer is yes, we need to evaluate Bob Martin, then I suspect
>>> I better fill out the same documentation for the September
>>> presentation because if his 25+ years of experience, books, papers,
>>> numerous presentations and keynotes at several conferences as  
>>> well as
>>> being one of the primaries on the Manifest of Agile Development does
>>> not immediately qualify him as a potential presenter, then my few
>>> talks at the JUG sure as hell should not qualify me for a talk since
>>> I have never filled out this form. And if I'm completely off  
>>> basis on
>>> my interpretation of "Presenter Evaluation Form" then maybe it  
>>> should
>>> be renamed.
>>>
>>> He's not going to care about any of this, he's very easy going. I
>>> really don't care about the specifics of asking Bob for these  
>>> things.
>>> I'm really trying to get an understanding of what these two forms  
>>> are
>>> doing when I've never seen nor heard of these things.
>>>
>>> Brett
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2007, at 4:49 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds good.  Do you have some topic proposals he can present to  
>>>> the
>>>> JUG Presentation Committee for approval?
>>>>
>>>> Jason, send him the Application to Propose a JUG Presentation Topic
>>>> and the Presenter Evaluation Form so we can start the process.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/28/07, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/28/07, Brett L. Schuchert < schuchert at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm checking his schedule but you think that might work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Works for me.
>>>>>
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