[Steering Committee] What about Robert Martin to present in November?

[Brett L. Schuchert]

I've forwarded this email on to Bob, so realize that I am neither  
evading or filtering the request from Bob.
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So how long has the submittal process involved using two forms?

When did the process become a process?

I'm confused at the need for a process, have we become so big that we  
need bureaucracy? Or it is more related to how we communicate and the  
fact that there's essentially a distributed group? (In reality, I'm  
really not part of the WE because I've never been to a steering  
committee meeting.) Did the APLN get their hands on the group somehow?

What problems are these forms solving or what's the specific business  
value is added by having such forms?

I know I am biased because I work for Bob, but he has been an  
industry-recognized leader for several years - long before I worked  
for him. Do we really need a presenter evaluation form for him?  
(Again, remember I forward this email on to Bob so I'm asking because  
it sounds silly to me but I'm also conforming so I really am questing  
the sanity of the request WHILE going along with the inmates.) BTW,  
if the answer is yes, we need to evaluate Bob Martin, then I suspect  
I better fill out the same documentation for the September  
presentation because if his 25+ years of experience, books, papers,  
numerous presentations and keynotes at several conferences as well as  
being one of the primaries on the Manifest of Agile Development does  
not immediately qualify him as a potential presenter, then my few  
talks at the JUG sure as hell should not qualify me for a talk since  
I have never filled out this form. And if I'm completely off basis on  
my interpretation of "Presenter Evaluation Form" then maybe it should  
be renamed.

He's not going to care about any of this, he's very easy going. I  
really don't care about the specifics of asking Bob for these things.  
I'm really trying to get an understanding of what these two forms are  
doing when I've never seen nor heard of these things.

Brett

On Aug 28, 2007, at 4:49 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Sounds good.  Do you have some topic proposals he can present to the
> JUG Presentation Committee for approval?
>
> Jason, send him the Application to Propose a JUG Presentation Topic
> and the Presenter Evaluation Form so we can start the process.
>
> On 8/28/07, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>> On 8/28/07, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I'm checking his schedule but you think that might work?
>>>
>>
>> Works for me.
>>
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