From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 12:39:51 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:39:51 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>

I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.

-- 
Brian

http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  1 12:45:07 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:45:07 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or  
> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.


OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what  
we're about to launch will prevent this in the future.

BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From paul0731 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 12:51:02 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:51:02 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812011251x15f0d3f2k138c856e4ef7d074@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I've been way to busy  as of late.

Paul Smith
810 Willow Run
Yukon, Ok 73099
*
*International Environmental Corporation?
5000 W I 40 Service Rd <http://maps.google.com/>
Oklahoma City, OK 73128
<http://maps.google.com/>
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
>> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.
>>
>
>
> OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what we're
> about to launch will prevent this in the future.
>
> BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 13:12:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:12:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812011312k7b885c45le2cb7fea93ca09e2@mail.gmail.com>

Really?  Thought I had already sent it

Ryan Hoegg
2224 NW 54th st
Oklahoma City, OK 73112

Valtech
1015 N Broadway Ave # 300
Oklahoma City, OK 73102

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
>> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.
>>
>
>
> OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what we're
> about to launch will prevent this in the future.
>
> BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  1 13:42:24 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:42:24 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812011312k7b885c45le2cb7fea93ca09e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812011312k7b885c45le2cb7fea93ca09e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5AD9E700-6ED5-4C97-AE68-CC38D4289546@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:12 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Really?  Thought I had already sent it


If you did, I missed it. :P  Either way, the info is off to the  
lawyers.  Thanks, guys.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec  3 16:41:38 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:41:38 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting Sponsorships
idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about what kinds
of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some about
exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What other
ideas do you have?

Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
Ryan, do either of those days work for you?

Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be involved
at this stage?

--ryan
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 16:46:01 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:46:01 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812041646g53216664y8a23aff65be61403@mail.gmail.com>

Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?

Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.

--ryan

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting Sponsorships
> idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about what kinds
> of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some about
> exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What other
> ideas do you have?
>
> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>
> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
> involved at this stage?
>
> --ryan
>
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:24:03 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:24:03 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>

What time and where says the lost guy?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech,
and Ryan seems to be saying lunch and ? for the location.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
> go.
>
> B
>
> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>
> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>> other ideas do you have?
>>
>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>
>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>> involved at this stage?
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:24:43 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:24:43 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>

This thread is about the recruiting lunch on Wednesday.  I think tomorrow
morning is about the classes, right?

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:

> What time and where?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech, and Ryan seems to
> be saying lunch.  I'm just lost.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>> go.
>>
>> B
>>
>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>
>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
>> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
>> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>
>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>
>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>> involved at this stage?
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:25:11 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:25:11 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041825o5a547c3dk11a759515d60c7b4@mail.gmail.com>

The lost guy that keeps sending out the same email.  This is what happens
when I write unit test for java comparators to show why they should
implement serializable.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:

> What time and where says the lost guy?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech,
> and Ryan seems to be saying lunch and ? for the location.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>> go.
>>
>> B
>>
>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>
>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
>> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
>> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>
>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>
>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>> involved at this stage?
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:33:14 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:33:14 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041833i1841c970sf6fd1ee16cfdf0db@mail.gmail.com>

Well Wednesday I can do, probably need to talk to the flesh traders anyway
given all the layoffs and order cancellations happening at work.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> This thread is about the recruiting lunch on Wednesday.  I think tomorrow
> morning is about the classes, right?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What time and where?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech, and Ryan seems to
>> be saying lunch.  I'm just lost.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>>> go.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>>
>>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us
>>> plan this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested
>>> in participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>>
>>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>>
>>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>>> involved at this stage?
>>>>
>>>> --ryan
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:48:15 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:48:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
	=?windows-1252?q?=5BInvitation=5D_Steering_C?=
	=?windows-1252?q?ommittee_Meeting_=40_Mon_Jan_5_11=3A30am_=96_12?=
	=?windows-1252?q?=3A30pm_=28schuchert=40yahoo=2Ecom=29?=
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812041825y5d64d63flcf5a7168e6206c8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <75657.5531.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4799209F-8668-4CBC-AA7B-14008BB407D1@steeplesoft.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812041823n4ca75ac6o6657a3a0da7aee1d@mail.gmail.com>
	<ca24cc950812041825y5d64d63flcf5a7168e6206c8@mail.gmail.com>
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Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with tomorrow's
agenda?  My memory must have a leak.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow morning
>> at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly, this is
>> the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is that
>> right?
>>
>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe Coffee
>> Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some more at
>> 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>
>> See you tomorrow!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>
>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>
>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:51:44 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:51:44 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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I was not there either, hence our confusion.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with tomorrow's
> agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow
>>> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly,
>>> this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is
>>> that right?
>>>
>>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe Coffee
>>> Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some more at
>>> 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>>
>>> See you tomorrow!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>>
>>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>> http://www.au.org
>> http://www.venganza.org
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Thu Dec  4 19:35:03 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:35:03 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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	<4799209F-8668-4CBC-AA7B-14008BB407D1@steeplesoft.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812041823n4ca75ac6o6657a3a0da7aee1d@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <DBCF5F3D-AA4F-44FA-82AB-FEBE3ADA08ED@steeplesoft.com>

Yes, tomorrow we are going to discuss... let's jog the ol' FlabbyRAM...
* Possible class/training options
* Sponsorship levels
* Annual funding goals
* OU football, and how the Sooners are clearly the best team in  
college football today :)

6:00am.  See you there.  I may bring my own coffee, though.  Gonna  
need an earlier jolt. ;)

On Dec 4, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Paul Smith wrote:

> I was not there either, hence our confusion.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with  
> tomorrow's agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow  
> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember  
> correctly, this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will  
> be offering.  Is that right?
>
> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe  
> Coffee Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get  
> some more at 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>
> See you tomorrow!
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>  
> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>
> We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>
>
> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com



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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 19:53:20 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:53:20 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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Message-ID: <ca24cc950812041953v13cac60q1ba929c100b501f4@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the info. See ya there.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> Yes, tomorrow we are going to discuss... let's jog the ol' FlabbyRAM...*
> Possible class/training options
> * Sponsorship levels
> * Annual funding goals
> * OU football, and how the Sooners are clearly the best team in college
> football today :)
>
> 6:00am.  See you there.  I may bring my own coffee, though.  Gonna need an
> earlier jolt. ;)
>
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
>
> I was not there either, hence our confusion.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with
>> tomorrow's agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow
>>>> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly,
>>>> this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is
>>>> that right?
>>>>
>>>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe
>>>> Coffee Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some
>>>> more at 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>>>
>>>> See you tomorrow!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.au.org
>>> http://www.venganza.org
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
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> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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>


-- 
Brian

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http://www.au.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 09:35:53 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:35:53 +0000
Subject: [Steering Committee] =?windows-1252?q?=5BInvitation=5D_Recruiting?=
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sc at lists.okcjug.org, you are invited to

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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 10:55:06 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:55:06 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
In-Reply-To: <D5592BF3-9C28-43F2-AFD3-88994C0F8703@steeplesoft.com>
References: <D5592BF3-9C28-43F2-AFD3-88994C0F8703@steeplesoft.com>
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Don't forget to register for this incredible, one time, event:
http://okcjug.org/index.php?option=com_attend_events&task=view&id=28

if you don't register, you don't get to be in the drawing for the door
prizes and you may not be allowed to eat the food.

there *may* be a special, one-of-a-kind, door prize provided by Paul and I.

brian

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Subject: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
To: jug at okcjug.org


Good morning!  We are now less than a week away from our December meeting.
 This month, first time presenters Paul Smith and Brian Sheldon will be
presenting on the Java Collections Framework.

If you plan on attending, please be sure to stop by the web site and
register so we can get a good head count for the lunch order, and, of
course, so you can be entered to win the door prize.

http://okcjug.org/

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com



_______________________________________________
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-- 
Brian

http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
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From hobione at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 11:39:13 2008
From: hobione at gmail.com (HobiOne)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 13:39:13 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812081055u32d0f243h9975d68fd34c44e7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D5592BF3-9C28-43F2-AFD3-88994C0F8703@steeplesoft.com>
	<ca24cc950812081055u32d0f243h9975d68fd34c44e7@mail.gmail.com>
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Looking forward to, Brian.



On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> Don't forget to register for this incredible, one time, event:
> http://okcjug.org/index.php?option=com_attend_events&task=view&id=28
>
> if you don't register, you don't get to be in the drawing for the door
> prizes and you may not be allowed to eat the food.
>
> there *may* be a special, one-of-a-kind, door prize provided by Paul and
> I.
>
> brian
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> Date: Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:22 AM
> Subject: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
> To: jug at okcjug.org
>
>
> Good morning!  We are now less than a week away from our December meeting.
>  This month, first time presenters Paul Smith and Brian Sheldon will be
> presenting on the Java Collections Framework.
>
> If you plan on attending, please be sure to stop by the web site and
> register so we can get a good head count for the lunch order, and, of
> course, so you can be entered to win the door prize.
>
> http://okcjug.org/
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jug mailing list
> Jug at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/jug-okcjug.org
>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>


-- 
Thanks much.
..\ Hobi
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 13:14:27 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:14:27 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>

Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>
> Jason,
>
> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>
> Thanks,
> Derrick
>
>
> -- 
> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
> http://thirtysixthspan.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:27:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:27:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding classes...
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I'd like to mention a few things:
	- New offering
	- Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
Programming, AOP, ...)
	- Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an 8- 
week course $100
	- You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
	- Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
	- To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.

Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
questions in email first?

Brett


From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:27:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:27:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding classes...
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>

I'd like to mention a few things:
	- New offering
	- Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
Programming, AOP, ...)
	- Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an 8- 
week course $100
	- You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
	- Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
	- To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.

Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
questions in email first?

Brett


From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:28:19 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:28:19 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>

Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that +  
Derrick, could add up to some time.

I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to  
maintain the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
>> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
>> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
>> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
>> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
>> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
>> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
>> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:28:19 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:28:19 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>

Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that +  
Derrick, could add up to some time.

I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to  
maintain the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
>> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
>> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
>> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
>> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
>> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
>> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
>> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:54:26 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:54:26 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?

Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.

Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.

--ryan

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
> 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions in
> email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:54:26 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:54:26 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?

Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.

Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.

--ryan

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
> 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions in
> email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:58:15 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:58:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>

I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I think
he only talked for about 2 minutes.

What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
classes.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that + Derrick,
> could add up to some time.
>
> I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to maintain
> the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *"derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
> *Date: *December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
> *To: *"Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> *Subject: **OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative*
>
> Jason,
>
> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>
> Thanks,
> Derrick
>
>
> --
> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:03:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <649F30A7-B413-4194-9F40-64C39BB2C41C@yahoo.com>

I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make  
the most sense.
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose  
> one and announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate,  
> specific topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and  
> continuous integration, dependency injection, or applied code  
> metrics (including ways to improve them).  Let's do our first  
> beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost  
> for an 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on  
> weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
> questions in email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:03:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <649F30A7-B413-4194-9F40-64C39BB2C41C@yahoo.com>

I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make  
the most sense.
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose  
> one and announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate,  
> specific topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and  
> continuous integration, dependency injection, or applied code  
> metrics (including ways to improve them).  Let's do our first  
> beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost  
> for an 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on  
> weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
> questions in email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:56 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:03:56 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:

> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and  
> I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>
> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never  
> do java classes.


Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST  
thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so,  
from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps  
significantly with ours, so I think we should support him (both before  
and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him  
yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.

The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.   
Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front- 
load the session?

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 14:16:34 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:16:34 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081416g3786a88ew6152dd299f6271f1@mail.gmail.com>

The end sounds good to me.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
>  I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I
>> think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>
>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
>> company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
>> classes.
>>
>
>
> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to make
> them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on
> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST thing
> I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so, from the
> perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps significantly
> with ours, so I think we should support him (both before and after
> profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that
> reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>
> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.
>  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front-load
> the session?
>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 15:31:21 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:31:21 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
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We probably shouldn't announce the Valtech location yet.  There may be
complications getting into the building without a badge on evenings and
weekends.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make the
> most sense.
>
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
> announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
> topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
> dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
> them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I'd like to mention a few things:
>>        - New offering
>>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
>> Programming, AOP, ...)
>>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
>> 8-week course $100
>>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>>
>> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions
>> in email first?
>>
>> Brett
>> _______________________________________________
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From izhidov at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 15:55:38 2008
From: izhidov at gmail.com (Ivan Zhidov)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:55:38 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKC CoCo announcement
In-Reply-To: <mailman.976.1228779083.2282.sc-okcjug.org@lists.okcjug.org>
References: <mailman.976.1228779083.2282.sc-okcjug.org@lists.okcjug.org>
Message-ID: <493DB3FA.6000904@gmail.com>

You should let Derrik go first with his announcement. What he's doing is 
very beneficial to the entire OKC IT community and is pretty 
different/innovative.


From paul0731 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 17:54:32 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:54:32 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081416g3786a88ew6152dd299f6271f1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
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	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081416g3786a88ew6152dd299f6271f1@mail.gmail.com>
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It may be in the best interest of everyone involved to have brian and I talk
as short as possible :D

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:16 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> The end sounds good to me.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>  I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I
>>> think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
>>> company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
>>> classes.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to make
>> them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST thing
>> I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so, from the
>> perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps significantly
>> with ours, so I think we should support him (both before and after
>> profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that
>> reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.
>>  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front-load
>> the session?
>>
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 18:19:01 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:19:01 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKC CoCo announcement
In-Reply-To: <493DB3FA.6000904@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.976.1228779083.2282.sc-okcjug.org@lists.okcjug.org>
	<493DB3FA.6000904@gmail.com>
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On Dec 8, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Ivan Zhidov wrote:

> You should let Derrik go first with his announcement. What he's  
> doing is very beneficial to the entire OKC IT community and is  
> pretty different/innovative.

Certainly.  There's no doubt that what he's doing is of immense value  
to the community.  The main concern with respect to tomorrow is that  
we've already got a good deal going up front, so we need to make sure  
we get that done, and get the presentation done before people have to  
leave.  As I told Derek, I really don't expect people will leave while  
someone's still talking, but I want to give them that option (and  
still hear the presentation) if they *really* need to.  Aside from  
that, I asked Derek if the end would be OK, and he said that would be  
just fine. :P

Any other month this wouldn't be an issue, but we have the potential  
for being a bit long-winded up front this month, which, apparently,  
will make Paul happy. :)

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:43:05 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:43:05 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>

Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?

Let me know (skype me or whatever).

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and  
>> I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>
>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never  
>> do java classes.
>
>
> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run it  
> by you all first.
>
> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
> front-load the session?
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/



From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:45:44 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:45:44 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
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Why the f*(k is it, that when I send an email to this group 7 time  
zones away, it gets sent faster?
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:43 PM 12/9/08, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:

> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>
> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>> never do java classes.
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
>> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
>> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
>> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
>> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
>> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
>> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run  
>> it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
>> front-load the session?
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Tue Dec  9 08:53:46 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 10:53:46 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
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I sure hope so.  About to head that way and see if they allow Skype.

On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:

> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>
> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>> never do java classes.
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
>> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
>> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
>> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
>> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
>> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
>> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run  
>> it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
>> front-load the session?
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:55:40 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:55:40 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <A02E1551-E223-41FE-B1B3-7358D9D0A7F1@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
	<62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
	<A02E1551-E223-41FE-B1B3-7358D9D0A7F1@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <1FB12322-8ADF-4C0D-8409-473AB5A696EB@yahoo.com>

I've got skype running, just ping me if you can. If I don't get a  
ping, I'll send an email instead...
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:53 PM 12/9/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> I sure hope so.  About to head that way and see if they allow Skype.
>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>
>> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
>> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>>
>> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>>
>> Brett
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>>> never do java classes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors  
>>> to make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working  
>>> on building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course,  
>>> the LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime  
>>> operation, so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a  
>>> community, which overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we  
>>> should support him (both before and after profitability for  
>>> him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that reason, but  
>>> I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>>>
>>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested,  
>>> or front-load the session?
>>>
>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
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>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Tue Dec  9 18:19:52 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:19:52 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>

about what I figured on this....

-- 
Brian

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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Tue Dec  9 18:28:08 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:28:08 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] evals - take 2
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812091828k4adb32aj73e913b381788f5a@mail.gmail.com>

sorry, I guess I sent the version of the spreadsheet before the wife entered
all the info... here it is again.

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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:00:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:00:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>

December is all empty.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> about what I figured on this....
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
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> sc at lists.okcjug.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:01:22 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:01:22 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>

Ignore me

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> December is all empty.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> about what I figured on this....
>>
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>> http://www.au.org
>> http://www.venganza.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:31:33 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:31:33 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812100831u279c96f4i4d0b321072ecf4f4@mail.gmail.com>

consider yourself ignored.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:01 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ignore me
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> December is all empty.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> about what I figured on this....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.au.org
>>> http://www.venganza.org
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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>


-- 
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http://www.au.org
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Fri Dec 12 06:25:04 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:25:04 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>

Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
continue the Collection presentation.  :-)

Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with a
bank acct etc...?

-- 
Brian

http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Fri Dec 12 06:59:45 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:59:45 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe  
> Paul can continue the Collection presentation.  :-)

I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps,  
a short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) --  
think of it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then  
just leave the rest of the time to networking.  We got some good  
feedback from Tyson and Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which  
concerned our very constrained, barely existent networking  
opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting Tuesday), so we'd like to  
fix that.

> Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then  
> with a bank acct etc...?

That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers,  
though we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if  
our plan is acceptable to their money people.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec 15 09:43:33 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:43:33 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
Message-ID: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>

This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week,  
the lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate,  
we will be officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to  
open the back account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see  
the bylaws before opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which  
bank are we planning on using?  BOK?  What's their policy?

As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up  
the relevant details.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From scentille at gmail.com  Mon Dec 15 12:33:37 2008
From: scentille at gmail.com (Scott Centille)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:33:37 -0800
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>

Jason,

We had previously discussed using BOK. So, after speaking with a rep, he
informed me that we would need the following:


   1. Articles of Incorporation.
   2. Tax ID#, aka EIN
   3. Signer(s) who are authorized to deposit and withdraw from the Business
   Checking Account.

The process should take approx. 30 minutes to complete.

Any other questions, let me know.

Scott


On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week, the
> lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate, we will be
> officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to open the back
> account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see the bylaws before
> opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which bank are we planning on
> using?  BOK?  What's their policy?
>
> As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up the
> relevant details.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec 22 19:48:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:48:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
	<d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>

Jason,

These look pretty straightforward.  Do you think we'll have a draft of the
Articles and our EIN pretty soon?  Perhaps we can get together the first
week of January to review them and sign on the dotted line.

--
Ryan

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Scott Centille <scentille at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jason,
>
> We had previously discussed using BOK. So, after speaking with a rep, he
> informed me that we would need the following:
>
>
>    1. Articles of Incorporation.
>    2. Tax ID#, aka EIN
>    3. Signer(s) who are authorized to deposit and withdraw from the
>    Business Checking Account.
>
> The process should take approx. 30 minutes to complete.
>
> Any other questions, let me know.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week, the
>> lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate, we will be
>> officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to open the back
>> account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see the bylaws before
>> opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which bank are we planning on
>> using?  BOK?  What's their policy?
>>
>> As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up the
>> relevant details.
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec 22 20:16:30 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:16:30 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
	<d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2BF3716-EE49-4000-A317-2B97D8D17E90@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:48 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
> These look pretty straightforward.  Do you think we'll have a draft  
> of the Articles and our EIN pretty soon?  Perhaps we can get  
> together the first week of January to review them and sign on the  
> dotted line.


Actually, I have our EIN now:  26-3912195.  I signed the certificate  
of incorporation Saturday (I'll attach it).  It just needed one  
signature and was very straightforward.  Hopefully, the bylaws will be  
done next week, but we are now a legal entity.  Do not sign for  
anything with your own name.  I'll verify the proposed/exact form in  
which we should sign, but the deal's done.

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Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com




From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 31 06:45:50 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:45:50 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>

Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
>> continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>>
>
> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps, a
> short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) -- think of
> it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then just leave the
> rest of the time to networking.  We got some good feedback from Tyson and
> Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which concerned our very constrained,
> barely existent networking opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting
> Tuesday), so we'd like to fix that.
>
>  Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with
>> a bank acct etc...?
>>
>
> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers, though
> we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if our plan is
> acceptable to their money people.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>



-- 
Brian

http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Wed Dec 31 11:39:15 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:39:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
	<ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <30EDCD19-1BD6-414E-A9BB-AE908F7CB0F0@steeplesoft.com>

We will need a sponsor, but I don't think we'll need a speaker, unless  
the idea below is rejected.  We have not opened the bank account yet  
(though we have everything we need to do so, now), so sponsors are  
still unable to... purchase the sponsorship levels yet.

On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:

> Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>  
> wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe  
> Paul can continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>
> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have,  
> perhaps, a short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy  
> to do) -- think of it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :)  
> -- and then just leave the rest of the time to networking.  We got  
> some good feedback from Tyson and Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part  
> of which concerned our very constrained, barely existent networking  
> opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting Tuesday), so we'd like to  
> fix that.
>
>
> Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then  
> with a bank acct etc...?
>
> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers,  
> though we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see  
> if our plan is acceptable to their money people.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
>
> -- 
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 31 11:58:30 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:58:30 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <30EDCD19-1BD6-414E-A9BB-AE908F7CB0F0@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
	<ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>
	<30EDCD19-1BD6-414E-A9BB-AE908F7CB0F0@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812311158s5d5a7667u77bcbb491f2e4be7@mail.gmail.com>

I just spoke with Mark Smith, Valtech will sponsor the January 13th meeting.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> We will need a sponsor, but I don't think we'll need a speaker, unless the
> idea below is rejected.  We have not opened the bank account yet (though we
> have everything we need to do so, now), so sponsors are still unable to...
> purchase the sponsorship levels yet.
>
> On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
> Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
>>> continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>>>
>>
>> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps, a
>> short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) -- think of
>> it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then just leave the
>> rest of the time to networking.  We got some good feedback from Tyson and
>> Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which concerned our very constrained,
>> barely existent networking opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting
>> Tuesday), so we'd like to fix that.
>>
>>  Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with
>>> a bank acct etc...?
>>>
>>
>> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers, though
>> we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if our plan is
>> acceptable to their money people.
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
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>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 12:39:51 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:39:51 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>

I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.

-- 
Brian

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http://www.au.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  1 12:45:07 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:45:07 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or  
> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.


OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what  
we're about to launch will prevent this in the future.

BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From paul0731 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 12:51:02 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:51:02 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812011251x15f0d3f2k138c856e4ef7d074@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I've been way to busy  as of late.

Paul Smith
810 Willow Run
Yukon, Ok 73099
*
*International Environmental Corporation?
5000 W I 40 Service Rd <http://maps.google.com/>
Oklahoma City, OK 73128
<http://maps.google.com/>
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
>> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.
>>
>
>
> OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what we're
> about to launch will prevent this in the future.
>
> BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 13:12:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:12:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812011312k7b885c45le2cb7fea93ca09e2@mail.gmail.com>

Really?  Thought I had already sent it

Ryan Hoegg
2224 NW 54th st
Oklahoma City, OK 73112

Valtech
1015 N Broadway Ave # 300
Oklahoma City, OK 73102

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
>> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.
>>
>
>
> OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what we're
> about to launch will prevent this in the future.
>
> BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  1 13:42:24 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:42:24 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812011312k7b885c45le2cb7fea93ca09e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812011312k7b885c45le2cb7fea93ca09e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5AD9E700-6ED5-4C97-AE68-CC38D4289546@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:12 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Really?  Thought I had already sent it


If you did, I missed it. :P  Either way, the info is off to the  
lawyers.  Thanks, guys.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec  3 16:41:38 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:41:38 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting Sponsorships
idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about what kinds
of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some about
exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What other
ideas do you have?

Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
Ryan, do either of those days work for you?

Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be involved
at this stage?

--ryan
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 16:46:01 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:46:01 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812041646g53216664y8a23aff65be61403@mail.gmail.com>

Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?

Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.

--ryan

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting Sponsorships
> idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about what kinds
> of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some about
> exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What other
> ideas do you have?
>
> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>
> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
> involved at this stage?
>
> --ryan
>
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:24:03 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:24:03 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>

What time and where says the lost guy?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech,
and Ryan seems to be saying lunch and ? for the location.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
> go.
>
> B
>
> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>
> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>> other ideas do you have?
>>
>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>
>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>> involved at this stage?
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:24:43 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:24:43 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>

This thread is about the recruiting lunch on Wednesday.  I think tomorrow
morning is about the classes, right?

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:

> What time and where?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech, and Ryan seems to
> be saying lunch.  I'm just lost.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>> go.
>>
>> B
>>
>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>
>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
>> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
>> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>
>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>
>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>> involved at this stage?
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:25:11 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:25:11 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041825o5a547c3dk11a759515d60c7b4@mail.gmail.com>

The lost guy that keeps sending out the same email.  This is what happens
when I write unit test for java comparators to show why they should
implement serializable.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:

> What time and where says the lost guy?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech,
> and Ryan seems to be saying lunch and ? for the location.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>> go.
>>
>> B
>>
>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>
>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
>> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
>> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>
>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>
>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>> involved at this stage?
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:33:14 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:33:14 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041833i1841c970sf6fd1ee16cfdf0db@mail.gmail.com>

Well Wednesday I can do, probably need to talk to the flesh traders anyway
given all the layoffs and order cancellations happening at work.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> This thread is about the recruiting lunch on Wednesday.  I think tomorrow
> morning is about the classes, right?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What time and where?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech, and Ryan seems to
>> be saying lunch.  I'm just lost.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>>> go.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>>
>>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us
>>> plan this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested
>>> in participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>>
>>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>>
>>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>>> involved at this stage?
>>>>
>>>> --ryan
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:48:15 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:48:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
	=?windows-1252?q?=5BInvitation=5D_Steering_C?=
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Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with tomorrow's
agenda?  My memory must have a leak.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow morning
>> at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly, this is
>> the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is that
>> right?
>>
>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe Coffee
>> Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some more at
>> 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>
>> See you tomorrow!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>
>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>
>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:51:44 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:51:44 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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I was not there either, hence our confusion.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with tomorrow's
> agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow
>>> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly,
>>> this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is
>>> that right?
>>>
>>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe Coffee
>>> Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some more at
>>> 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>>
>>> See you tomorrow!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>>
>>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>> http://www.au.org
>> http://www.venganza.org
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Thu Dec  4 19:35:03 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:35:03 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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Yes, tomorrow we are going to discuss... let's jog the ol' FlabbyRAM...
* Possible class/training options
* Sponsorship levels
* Annual funding goals
* OU football, and how the Sooners are clearly the best team in  
college football today :)

6:00am.  See you there.  I may bring my own coffee, though.  Gonna  
need an earlier jolt. ;)

On Dec 4, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Paul Smith wrote:

> I was not there either, hence our confusion.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with  
> tomorrow's agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow  
> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember  
> correctly, this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will  
> be offering.  Is that right?
>
> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe  
> Coffee Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get  
> some more at 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>
> See you tomorrow!
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>  
> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>
> We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>
>
> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> sc at lists.okcjug.org
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Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com



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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 19:53:20 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:53:20 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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Thanks for the info. See ya there.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> Yes, tomorrow we are going to discuss... let's jog the ol' FlabbyRAM...*
> Possible class/training options
> * Sponsorship levels
> * Annual funding goals
> * OU football, and how the Sooners are clearly the best team in college
> football today :)
>
> 6:00am.  See you there.  I may bring my own coffee, though.  Gonna need an
> earlier jolt. ;)
>
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
>
> I was not there either, hence our confusion.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with
>> tomorrow's agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow
>>>> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly,
>>>> this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is
>>>> that right?
>>>>
>>>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe
>>>> Coffee Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some
>>>> more at 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>>>
>>>> See you tomorrow!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.au.org
>>> http://www.venganza.org
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
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> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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>


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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 09:35:53 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:35:53 +0000
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sc at lists.okcjug.org, you are invited to

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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 10:55:06 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:55:06 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
In-Reply-To: <D5592BF3-9C28-43F2-AFD3-88994C0F8703@steeplesoft.com>
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Don't forget to register for this incredible, one time, event:
http://okcjug.org/index.php?option=com_attend_events&task=view&id=28

if you don't register, you don't get to be in the drawing for the door
prizes and you may not be allowed to eat the food.

there *may* be a special, one-of-a-kind, door prize provided by Paul and I.

brian

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Subject: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
To: jug at okcjug.org


Good morning!  We are now less than a week away from our December meeting.
 This month, first time presenters Paul Smith and Brian Sheldon will be
presenting on the Java Collections Framework.

If you plan on attending, please be sure to stop by the web site and
register so we can get a good head count for the lunch order, and, of
course, so you can be entered to win the door prize.

http://okcjug.org/

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com



_______________________________________________
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-- 
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From hobione at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 11:39:13 2008
From: hobione at gmail.com (HobiOne)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 13:39:13 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812081055u32d0f243h9975d68fd34c44e7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D5592BF3-9C28-43F2-AFD3-88994C0F8703@steeplesoft.com>
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Looking forward to, Brian.



On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> Don't forget to register for this incredible, one time, event:
> http://okcjug.org/index.php?option=com_attend_events&task=view&id=28
>
> if you don't register, you don't get to be in the drawing for the door
> prizes and you may not be allowed to eat the food.
>
> there *may* be a special, one-of-a-kind, door prize provided by Paul and
> I.
>
> brian
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> Date: Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:22 AM
> Subject: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
> To: jug at okcjug.org
>
>
> Good morning!  We are now less than a week away from our December meeting.
>  This month, first time presenters Paul Smith and Brian Sheldon will be
> presenting on the Java Collections Framework.
>
> If you plan on attending, please be sure to stop by the web site and
> register so we can get a good head count for the lunch order, and, of
> course, so you can be entered to win the door prize.
>
> http://okcjug.org/
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jug mailing list
> Jug at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/jug-okcjug.org
>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>


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Thanks much.
..\ Hobi
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 13:14:27 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:14:27 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>

Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>
> Jason,
>
> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>
> Thanks,
> Derrick
>
>
> -- 
> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
> http://thirtysixthspan.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com



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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:27:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:27:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding classes...
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>

I'd like to mention a few things:
	- New offering
	- Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
Programming, AOP, ...)
	- Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an 8- 
week course $100
	- You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
	- Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
	- To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.

Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
questions in email first?

Brett


From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:27:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:27:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding classes...
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>

I'd like to mention a few things:
	- New offering
	- Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
Programming, AOP, ...)
	- Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an 8- 
week course $100
	- You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
	- Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
	- To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.

Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
questions in email first?

Brett


From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:28:19 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:28:19 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>

Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that +  
Derrick, could add up to some time.

I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to  
maintain the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
>> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
>> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
>> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
>> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
>> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
>> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
>> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:28:19 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:28:19 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>

Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that +  
Derrick, could add up to some time.

I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to  
maintain the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
>> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
>> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
>> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
>> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
>> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
>> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
>> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:54:26 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:54:26 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?

Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.

Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.

--ryan

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
> 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions in
> email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:54:26 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:54:26 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?

Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.

Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.

--ryan

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
> 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions in
> email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:58:15 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:58:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>

I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I think
he only talked for about 2 minutes.

What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
classes.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that + Derrick,
> could add up to some time.
>
> I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to maintain
> the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *"derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
> *Date: *December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
> *To: *"Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> *Subject: **OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative*
>
> Jason,
>
> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>
> Thanks,
> Derrick
>
>
> --
> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:03:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <649F30A7-B413-4194-9F40-64C39BB2C41C@yahoo.com>

I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make  
the most sense.
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose  
> one and announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate,  
> specific topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and  
> continuous integration, dependency injection, or applied code  
> metrics (including ways to improve them).  Let's do our first  
> beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost  
> for an 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on  
> weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
> questions in email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:03:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <649F30A7-B413-4194-9F40-64C39BB2C41C@yahoo.com>

I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make  
the most sense.
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose  
> one and announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate,  
> specific topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and  
> continuous integration, dependency injection, or applied code  
> metrics (including ways to improve them).  Let's do our first  
> beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost  
> for an 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on  
> weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
> questions in email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:56 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:03:56 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:

> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and  
> I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>
> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never  
> do java classes.


Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST  
thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so,  
from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps  
significantly with ours, so I think we should support him (both before  
and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him  
yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.

The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.   
Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front- 
load the session?

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 14:16:34 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:16:34 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081416g3786a88ew6152dd299f6271f1@mail.gmail.com>

The end sounds good to me.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
>  I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I
>> think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>
>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
>> company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
>> classes.
>>
>
>
> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to make
> them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on
> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST thing
> I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so, from the
> perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps significantly
> with ours, so I think we should support him (both before and after
> profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that
> reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>
> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.
>  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front-load
> the session?
>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 15:31:21 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:31:21 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <649F30A7-B413-4194-9F40-64C39BB2C41C@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
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We probably shouldn't announce the Valtech location yet.  There may be
complications getting into the building without a badge on evenings and
weekends.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make the
> most sense.
>
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
> announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
> topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
> dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
> them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I'd like to mention a few things:
>>        - New offering
>>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
>> Programming, AOP, ...)
>>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
>> 8-week course $100
>>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>>
>> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions
>> in email first?
>>
>> Brett
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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>
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From izhidov at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 15:55:38 2008
From: izhidov at gmail.com (Ivan Zhidov)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:55:38 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKC CoCo announcement
In-Reply-To: <mailman.976.1228779083.2282.sc-okcjug.org@lists.okcjug.org>
References: <mailman.976.1228779083.2282.sc-okcjug.org@lists.okcjug.org>
Message-ID: <493DB3FA.6000904@gmail.com>

You should let Derrik go first with his announcement. What he's doing is 
very beneficial to the entire OKC IT community and is pretty 
different/innovative.


From paul0731 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 17:54:32 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:54:32 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081416g3786a88ew6152dd299f6271f1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081416g3786a88ew6152dd299f6271f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812081754x2492cbaenecc2e313ea42aa70@mail.gmail.com>

It may be in the best interest of everyone involved to have brian and I talk
as short as possible :D

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:16 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> The end sounds good to me.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>  I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I
>>> think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
>>> company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
>>> classes.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to make
>> them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST thing
>> I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so, from the
>> perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps significantly
>> with ours, so I think we should support him (both before and after
>> profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that
>> reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.
>>  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front-load
>> the session?
>>
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>
>
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 18:19:01 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:19:01 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKC CoCo announcement
In-Reply-To: <493DB3FA.6000904@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.976.1228779083.2282.sc-okcjug.org@lists.okcjug.org>
	<493DB3FA.6000904@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86E4A5B8-CAB7-42A2-BF03-781A754A785F@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 8, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Ivan Zhidov wrote:

> You should let Derrik go first with his announcement. What he's  
> doing is very beneficial to the entire OKC IT community and is  
> pretty different/innovative.

Certainly.  There's no doubt that what he's doing is of immense value  
to the community.  The main concern with respect to tomorrow is that  
we've already got a good deal going up front, so we need to make sure  
we get that done, and get the presentation done before people have to  
leave.  As I told Derek, I really don't expect people will leave while  
someone's still talking, but I want to give them that option (and  
still hear the presentation) if they *really* need to.  Aside from  
that, I asked Derek if the end would be OK, and he said that would be  
just fine. :P

Any other month this wouldn't be an issue, but we have the potential  
for being a bit long-winded up front this month, which, apparently,  
will make Paul happy. :)

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:43:05 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:43:05 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>

Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?

Let me know (skype me or whatever).

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and  
>> I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>
>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never  
>> do java classes.
>
>
> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run it  
> by you all first.
>
> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
> front-load the session?
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/



From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:45:44 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:45:44 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
	<62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BD36605-9DE7-49F7-87E7-F478DDDA30AE@yahoo.com>

Why the f*(k is it, that when I send an email to this group 7 time  
zones away, it gets sent faster?
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:43 PM 12/9/08, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:

> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>
> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>> never do java classes.
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
>> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
>> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
>> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
>> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
>> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
>> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run  
>> it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
>> front-load the session?
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Tue Dec  9 08:53:46 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 10:53:46 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
	<62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A02E1551-E223-41FE-B1B3-7358D9D0A7F1@steeplesoft.com>

I sure hope so.  About to head that way and see if they allow Skype.

On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:

> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>
> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>> never do java classes.
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
>> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
>> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
>> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
>> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
>> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
>> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run  
>> it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
>> front-load the session?
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:55:40 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:55:40 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <A02E1551-E223-41FE-B1B3-7358D9D0A7F1@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
	<62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
	<A02E1551-E223-41FE-B1B3-7358D9D0A7F1@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <1FB12322-8ADF-4C0D-8409-473AB5A696EB@yahoo.com>

I've got skype running, just ping me if you can. If I don't get a  
ping, I'll send an email instead...
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:53 PM 12/9/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> I sure hope so.  About to head that way and see if they allow Skype.
>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>
>> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
>> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>>
>> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>>
>> Brett
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>>> never do java classes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors  
>>> to make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working  
>>> on building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course,  
>>> the LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime  
>>> operation, so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a  
>>> community, which overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we  
>>> should support him (both before and after profitability for  
>>> him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that reason, but  
>>> I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>>>
>>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested,  
>>> or front-load the session?
>>>
>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Tue Dec  9 18:19:52 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:19:52 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>

about what I figured on this....

-- 
Brian

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http://www.au.org
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Tue Dec  9 18:28:08 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:28:08 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] evals - take 2
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812091828k4adb32aj73e913b381788f5a@mail.gmail.com>

sorry, I guess I sent the version of the spreadsheet before the wife entered
all the info... here it is again.

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http://www.au.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:00:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:00:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>

December is all empty.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> about what I figured on this....
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:01:22 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:01:22 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>

Ignore me

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> December is all empty.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> about what I figured on this....
>>
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>> http://www.au.org
>> http://www.venganza.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:31:33 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:31:33 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812100831u279c96f4i4d0b321072ecf4f4@mail.gmail.com>

consider yourself ignored.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:01 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ignore me
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> December is all empty.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> about what I figured on this....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.au.org
>>> http://www.venganza.org
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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http://www.au.org
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Fri Dec 12 06:25:04 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:25:04 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>

Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
continue the Collection presentation.  :-)

Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with a
bank acct etc...?

-- 
Brian

http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Fri Dec 12 06:59:45 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:59:45 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe  
> Paul can continue the Collection presentation.  :-)

I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps,  
a short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) --  
think of it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then  
just leave the rest of the time to networking.  We got some good  
feedback from Tyson and Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which  
concerned our very constrained, barely existent networking  
opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting Tuesday), so we'd like to  
fix that.

> Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then  
> with a bank acct etc...?

That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers,  
though we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if  
our plan is acceptable to their money people.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec 15 09:43:33 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:43:33 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
Message-ID: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>

This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week,  
the lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate,  
we will be officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to  
open the back account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see  
the bylaws before opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which  
bank are we planning on using?  BOK?  What's their policy?

As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up  
the relevant details.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From scentille at gmail.com  Mon Dec 15 12:33:37 2008
From: scentille at gmail.com (Scott Centille)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:33:37 -0800
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>

Jason,

We had previously discussed using BOK. So, after speaking with a rep, he
informed me that we would need the following:


   1. Articles of Incorporation.
   2. Tax ID#, aka EIN
   3. Signer(s) who are authorized to deposit and withdraw from the Business
   Checking Account.

The process should take approx. 30 minutes to complete.

Any other questions, let me know.

Scott


On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week, the
> lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate, we will be
> officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to open the back
> account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see the bylaws before
> opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which bank are we planning on
> using?  BOK?  What's their policy?
>
> As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up the
> relevant details.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec 22 19:48:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:48:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
	<d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>

Jason,

These look pretty straightforward.  Do you think we'll have a draft of the
Articles and our EIN pretty soon?  Perhaps we can get together the first
week of January to review them and sign on the dotted line.

--
Ryan

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Scott Centille <scentille at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jason,
>
> We had previously discussed using BOK. So, after speaking with a rep, he
> informed me that we would need the following:
>
>
>    1. Articles of Incorporation.
>    2. Tax ID#, aka EIN
>    3. Signer(s) who are authorized to deposit and withdraw from the
>    Business Checking Account.
>
> The process should take approx. 30 minutes to complete.
>
> Any other questions, let me know.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week, the
>> lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate, we will be
>> officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to open the back
>> account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see the bylaws before
>> opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which bank are we planning on
>> using?  BOK?  What's their policy?
>>
>> As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up the
>> relevant details.
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec 22 20:16:30 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:16:30 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
	<d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2BF3716-EE49-4000-A317-2B97D8D17E90@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:48 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
> These look pretty straightforward.  Do you think we'll have a draft  
> of the Articles and our EIN pretty soon?  Perhaps we can get  
> together the first week of January to review them and sign on the  
> dotted line.


Actually, I have our EIN now:  26-3912195.  I signed the certificate  
of incorporation Saturday (I'll attach it).  It just needed one  
signature and was very straightforward.  Hopefully, the bylaws will be  
done next week, but we are now a legal entity.  Do not sign for  
anything with your own name.  I'll verify the proposed/exact form in  
which we should sign, but the deal's done.

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Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com




From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 31 06:45:50 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:45:50 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>

Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
>> continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>>
>
> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps, a
> short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) -- think of
> it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then just leave the
> rest of the time to networking.  We got some good feedback from Tyson and
> Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which concerned our very constrained,
> barely existent networking opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting
> Tuesday), so we'd like to fix that.
>
>  Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with
>> a bank acct etc...?
>>
>
> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers, though
> we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if our plan is
> acceptable to their money people.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>



-- 
Brian

http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Wed Dec 31 11:39:15 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:39:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
	<ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <30EDCD19-1BD6-414E-A9BB-AE908F7CB0F0@steeplesoft.com>

We will need a sponsor, but I don't think we'll need a speaker, unless  
the idea below is rejected.  We have not opened the bank account yet  
(though we have everything we need to do so, now), so sponsors are  
still unable to... purchase the sponsorship levels yet.

On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:

> Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>  
> wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe  
> Paul can continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>
> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have,  
> perhaps, a short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy  
> to do) -- think of it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :)  
> -- and then just leave the rest of the time to networking.  We got  
> some good feedback from Tyson and Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part  
> of which concerned our very constrained, barely existent networking  
> opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting Tuesday), so we'd like to  
> fix that.
>
>
> Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then  
> with a bank acct etc...?
>
> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers,  
> though we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see  
> if our plan is acceptable to their money people.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
>
> -- 
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 31 11:58:30 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:58:30 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <30EDCD19-1BD6-414E-A9BB-AE908F7CB0F0@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
	<ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>
	<30EDCD19-1BD6-414E-A9BB-AE908F7CB0F0@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812311158s5d5a7667u77bcbb491f2e4be7@mail.gmail.com>

I just spoke with Mark Smith, Valtech will sponsor the January 13th meeting.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> We will need a sponsor, but I don't think we'll need a speaker, unless the
> idea below is rejected.  We have not opened the bank account yet (though we
> have everything we need to do so, now), so sponsors are still unable to...
> purchase the sponsorship levels yet.
>
> On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
> Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
>>> continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>>>
>>
>> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps, a
>> short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) -- think of
>> it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then just leave the
>> rest of the time to networking.  We got some good feedback from Tyson and
>> Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which concerned our very constrained,
>> barely existent networking opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting
>> Tuesday), so we'd like to fix that.
>>
>>  Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with
>>> a bank acct etc...?
>>>
>>
>> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers, though
>> we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if our plan is
>> acceptable to their money people.
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
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>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
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-- 
Brian

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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 12:39:51 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:39:51 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>

I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.

-- 
Brian

http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  1 12:45:07 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:45:07 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or  
> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.


OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what  
we're about to launch will prevent this in the future.

BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From paul0731 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 12:51:02 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:51:02 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812011251x15f0d3f2k138c856e4ef7d074@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I've been way to busy  as of late.

Paul Smith
810 Willow Run
Yukon, Ok 73099
*
*International Environmental Corporation?
5000 W I 40 Service Rd <http://maps.google.com/>
Oklahoma City, OK 73128
<http://maps.google.com/>
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
>> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.
>>
>
>
> OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what we're
> about to launch will prevent this in the future.
>
> BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 13:12:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:12:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812011312k7b885c45le2cb7fea93ca09e2@mail.gmail.com>

Really?  Thought I had already sent it

Ryan Hoegg
2224 NW 54th st
Oklahoma City, OK 73112

Valtech
1015 N Broadway Ave # 300
Oklahoma City, OK 73102

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
>> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.
>>
>
>
> OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what we're
> about to launch will prevent this in the future.
>
> BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  1 13:42:24 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:42:24 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812011312k7b885c45le2cb7fea93ca09e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812011312k7b885c45le2cb7fea93ca09e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5AD9E700-6ED5-4C97-AE68-CC38D4289546@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:12 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Really?  Thought I had already sent it


If you did, I missed it. :P  Either way, the info is off to the  
lawyers.  Thanks, guys.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec  3 16:41:38 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:41:38 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting Sponsorships
idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about what kinds
of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some about
exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What other
ideas do you have?

Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
Ryan, do either of those days work for you?

Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be involved
at this stage?

--ryan
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 16:46:01 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:46:01 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812041646g53216664y8a23aff65be61403@mail.gmail.com>

Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?

Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.

--ryan

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting Sponsorships
> idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about what kinds
> of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some about
> exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What other
> ideas do you have?
>
> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>
> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
> involved at this stage?
>
> --ryan
>
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:24:03 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:24:03 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>

What time and where says the lost guy?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech,
and Ryan seems to be saying lunch and ? for the location.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
> go.
>
> B
>
> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>
> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>> other ideas do you have?
>>
>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>
>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>> involved at this stage?
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:24:43 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:24:43 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>

This thread is about the recruiting lunch on Wednesday.  I think tomorrow
morning is about the classes, right?

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:

> What time and where?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech, and Ryan seems to
> be saying lunch.  I'm just lost.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>> go.
>>
>> B
>>
>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>
>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
>> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
>> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>
>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>
>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>> involved at this stage?
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:25:11 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:25:11 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041825o5a547c3dk11a759515d60c7b4@mail.gmail.com>

The lost guy that keeps sending out the same email.  This is what happens
when I write unit test for java comparators to show why they should
implement serializable.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:

> What time and where says the lost guy?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech,
> and Ryan seems to be saying lunch and ? for the location.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>> go.
>>
>> B
>>
>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>
>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
>> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
>> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>
>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>
>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>> involved at this stage?
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:33:14 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:33:14 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041833i1841c970sf6fd1ee16cfdf0db@mail.gmail.com>

Well Wednesday I can do, probably need to talk to the flesh traders anyway
given all the layoffs and order cancellations happening at work.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> This thread is about the recruiting lunch on Wednesday.  I think tomorrow
> morning is about the classes, right?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What time and where?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech, and Ryan seems to
>> be saying lunch.  I'm just lost.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>>> go.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>>
>>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us
>>> plan this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested
>>> in participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>>
>>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>>
>>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>>> involved at this stage?
>>>>
>>>> --ryan
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:48:15 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:48:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
	=?windows-1252?q?=5BInvitation=5D_Steering_C?=
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References: <75657.5531.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with tomorrow's
agenda?  My memory must have a leak.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow morning
>> at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly, this is
>> the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is that
>> right?
>>
>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe Coffee
>> Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some more at
>> 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>
>> See you tomorrow!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>
>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>
>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:51:44 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:51:44 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
	=?windows-1252?q?=5BInvitation=5D_Steering_C?=
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I was not there either, hence our confusion.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with tomorrow's
> agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow
>>> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly,
>>> this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is
>>> that right?
>>>
>>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe Coffee
>>> Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some more at
>>> 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>>
>>> See you tomorrow!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>>
>>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>> http://www.au.org
>> http://www.venganza.org
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Thu Dec  4 19:35:03 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:35:03 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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References: <75657.5531.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4799209F-8668-4CBC-AA7B-14008BB407D1@steeplesoft.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812041823n4ca75ac6o6657a3a0da7aee1d@mail.gmail.com>
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	<e988509e0812041851p5b62a5eaj92cd5b78d96e12f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DBCF5F3D-AA4F-44FA-82AB-FEBE3ADA08ED@steeplesoft.com>

Yes, tomorrow we are going to discuss... let's jog the ol' FlabbyRAM...
* Possible class/training options
* Sponsorship levels
* Annual funding goals
* OU football, and how the Sooners are clearly the best team in  
college football today :)

6:00am.  See you there.  I may bring my own coffee, though.  Gonna  
need an earlier jolt. ;)

On Dec 4, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Paul Smith wrote:

> I was not there either, hence our confusion.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with  
> tomorrow's agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow  
> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember  
> correctly, this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will  
> be offering.  Is that right?
>
> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe  
> Coffee Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get  
> some more at 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>
> See you tomorrow!
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>  
> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>
> We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>
>
> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com



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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 19:53:20 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:53:20 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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Thanks for the info. See ya there.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> Yes, tomorrow we are going to discuss... let's jog the ol' FlabbyRAM...*
> Possible class/training options
> * Sponsorship levels
> * Annual funding goals
> * OU football, and how the Sooners are clearly the best team in college
> football today :)
>
> 6:00am.  See you there.  I may bring my own coffee, though.  Gonna need an
> earlier jolt. ;)
>
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
>
> I was not there either, hence our confusion.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with
>> tomorrow's agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow
>>>> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly,
>>>> this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is
>>>> that right?
>>>>
>>>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe
>>>> Coffee Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some
>>>> more at 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>>>
>>>> See you tomorrow!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.au.org
>>> http://www.venganza.org
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 09:35:53 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:35:53 +0000
Subject: [Steering Committee] =?windows-1252?q?=5BInvitation=5D_Recruiting?=
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sc at lists.okcjug.org, you are invited to

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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 10:55:06 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:55:06 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
In-Reply-To: <D5592BF3-9C28-43F2-AFD3-88994C0F8703@steeplesoft.com>
References: <D5592BF3-9C28-43F2-AFD3-88994C0F8703@steeplesoft.com>
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Don't forget to register for this incredible, one time, event:
http://okcjug.org/index.php?option=com_attend_events&task=view&id=28

if you don't register, you don't get to be in the drawing for the door
prizes and you may not be allowed to eat the food.

there *may* be a special, one-of-a-kind, door prize provided by Paul and I.

brian

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Subject: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
To: jug at okcjug.org


Good morning!  We are now less than a week away from our December meeting.
 This month, first time presenters Paul Smith and Brian Sheldon will be
presenting on the Java Collections Framework.

If you plan on attending, please be sure to stop by the web site and
register so we can get a good head count for the lunch order, and, of
course, so you can be entered to win the door prize.

http://okcjug.org/

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com



_______________________________________________
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From hobione at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 11:39:13 2008
From: hobione at gmail.com (HobiOne)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 13:39:13 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812081055u32d0f243h9975d68fd34c44e7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D5592BF3-9C28-43F2-AFD3-88994C0F8703@steeplesoft.com>
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Looking forward to, Brian.



On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> Don't forget to register for this incredible, one time, event:
> http://okcjug.org/index.php?option=com_attend_events&task=view&id=28
>
> if you don't register, you don't get to be in the drawing for the door
> prizes and you may not be allowed to eat the food.
>
> there *may* be a special, one-of-a-kind, door prize provided by Paul and
> I.
>
> brian
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> Date: Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:22 AM
> Subject: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
> To: jug at okcjug.org
>
>
> Good morning!  We are now less than a week away from our December meeting.
>  This month, first time presenters Paul Smith and Brian Sheldon will be
> presenting on the Java Collections Framework.
>
> If you plan on attending, please be sure to stop by the web site and
> register so we can get a good head count for the lunch order, and, of
> course, so you can be entered to win the door prize.
>
> http://okcjug.org/
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jug mailing list
> Jug at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/jug-okcjug.org
>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>


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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 13:14:27 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:14:27 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>

Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>
> Jason,
>
> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>
> Thanks,
> Derrick
>
>
> -- 
> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
> http://thirtysixthspan.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com



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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:27:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:27:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding classes...
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>

I'd like to mention a few things:
	- New offering
	- Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
Programming, AOP, ...)
	- Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an 8- 
week course $100
	- You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
	- Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
	- To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.

Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
questions in email first?

Brett


From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:27:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:27:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding classes...
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>

I'd like to mention a few things:
	- New offering
	- Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
Programming, AOP, ...)
	- Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an 8- 
week course $100
	- You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
	- Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
	- To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.

Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
questions in email first?

Brett


From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:28:19 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:28:19 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>

Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that +  
Derrick, could add up to some time.

I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to  
maintain the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
>> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
>> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
>> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
>> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
>> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
>> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
>> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:28:19 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:28:19 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>

Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that +  
Derrick, could add up to some time.

I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to  
maintain the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
>> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
>> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
>> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
>> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
>> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
>> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
>> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:54:26 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:54:26 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?

Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.

Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.

--ryan

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
> 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions in
> email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:54:26 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:54:26 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?

Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.

Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.

--ryan

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
> 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions in
> email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:58:15 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:58:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>

I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I think
he only talked for about 2 minutes.

What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
classes.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that + Derrick,
> could add up to some time.
>
> I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to maintain
> the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *"derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
> *Date: *December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
> *To: *"Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> *Subject: **OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative*
>
> Jason,
>
> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>
> Thanks,
> Derrick
>
>
> --
> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:03:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <649F30A7-B413-4194-9F40-64C39BB2C41C@yahoo.com>

I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make  
the most sense.
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose  
> one and announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate,  
> specific topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and  
> continuous integration, dependency injection, or applied code  
> metrics (including ways to improve them).  Let's do our first  
> beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost  
> for an 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on  
> weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
> questions in email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:03:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <649F30A7-B413-4194-9F40-64C39BB2C41C@yahoo.com>

I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make  
the most sense.
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose  
> one and announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate,  
> specific topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and  
> continuous integration, dependency injection, or applied code  
> metrics (including ways to improve them).  Let's do our first  
> beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost  
> for an 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on  
> weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
> questions in email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:56 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:03:56 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:

> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and  
> I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>
> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never  
> do java classes.


Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST  
thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so,  
from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps  
significantly with ours, so I think we should support him (both before  
and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him  
yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.

The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.   
Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front- 
load the session?

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 14:16:34 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:16:34 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
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The end sounds good to me.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
>  I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I
>> think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>
>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
>> company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
>> classes.
>>
>
>
> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to make
> them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on
> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST thing
> I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so, from the
> perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps significantly
> with ours, so I think we should support him (both before and after
> profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that
> reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>
> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.
>  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front-load
> the session?
>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 15:31:21 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:31:21 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <649F30A7-B413-4194-9F40-64C39BB2C41C@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
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We probably shouldn't announce the Valtech location yet.  There may be
complications getting into the building without a badge on evenings and
weekends.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make the
> most sense.
>
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
> announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
> topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
> dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
> them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I'd like to mention a few things:
>>        - New offering
>>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
>> Programming, AOP, ...)
>>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
>> 8-week course $100
>>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>>
>> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions
>> in email first?
>>
>> Brett
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From izhidov at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 15:55:38 2008
From: izhidov at gmail.com (Ivan Zhidov)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:55:38 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKC CoCo announcement
In-Reply-To: <mailman.976.1228779083.2282.sc-okcjug.org@lists.okcjug.org>
References: <mailman.976.1228779083.2282.sc-okcjug.org@lists.okcjug.org>
Message-ID: <493DB3FA.6000904@gmail.com>

You should let Derrik go first with his announcement. What he's doing is 
very beneficial to the entire OKC IT community and is pretty 
different/innovative.


From paul0731 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 17:54:32 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:54:32 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081416g3786a88ew6152dd299f6271f1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081416g3786a88ew6152dd299f6271f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812081754x2492cbaenecc2e313ea42aa70@mail.gmail.com>

It may be in the best interest of everyone involved to have brian and I talk
as short as possible :D

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:16 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> The end sounds good to me.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>  I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I
>>> think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
>>> company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
>>> classes.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to make
>> them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST thing
>> I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so, from the
>> perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps significantly
>> with ours, so I think we should support him (both before and after
>> profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that
>> reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.
>>  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front-load
>> the session?
>>
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>
>
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 18:19:01 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:19:01 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKC CoCo announcement
In-Reply-To: <493DB3FA.6000904@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.976.1228779083.2282.sc-okcjug.org@lists.okcjug.org>
	<493DB3FA.6000904@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86E4A5B8-CAB7-42A2-BF03-781A754A785F@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 8, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Ivan Zhidov wrote:

> You should let Derrik go first with his announcement. What he's  
> doing is very beneficial to the entire OKC IT community and is  
> pretty different/innovative.

Certainly.  There's no doubt that what he's doing is of immense value  
to the community.  The main concern with respect to tomorrow is that  
we've already got a good deal going up front, so we need to make sure  
we get that done, and get the presentation done before people have to  
leave.  As I told Derek, I really don't expect people will leave while  
someone's still talking, but I want to give them that option (and  
still hear the presentation) if they *really* need to.  Aside from  
that, I asked Derek if the end would be OK, and he said that would be  
just fine. :P

Any other month this wouldn't be an issue, but we have the potential  
for being a bit long-winded up front this month, which, apparently,  
will make Paul happy. :)

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:43:05 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:43:05 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>

Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?

Let me know (skype me or whatever).

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and  
>> I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>
>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never  
>> do java classes.
>
>
> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run it  
> by you all first.
>
> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
> front-load the session?
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/



From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:45:44 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:45:44 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
	<62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BD36605-9DE7-49F7-87E7-F478DDDA30AE@yahoo.com>

Why the f*(k is it, that when I send an email to this group 7 time  
zones away, it gets sent faster?
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:43 PM 12/9/08, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:

> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>
> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>> never do java classes.
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
>> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
>> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
>> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
>> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
>> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
>> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run  
>> it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
>> front-load the session?
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> sc at lists.okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Tue Dec  9 08:53:46 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 10:53:46 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
	<62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A02E1551-E223-41FE-B1B3-7358D9D0A7F1@steeplesoft.com>

I sure hope so.  About to head that way and see if they allow Skype.

On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:

> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>
> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>> never do java classes.
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
>> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
>> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
>> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
>> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
>> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
>> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run  
>> it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
>> front-load the session?
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:55:40 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:55:40 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <A02E1551-E223-41FE-B1B3-7358D9D0A7F1@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
	<62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
	<A02E1551-E223-41FE-B1B3-7358D9D0A7F1@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <1FB12322-8ADF-4C0D-8409-473AB5A696EB@yahoo.com>

I've got skype running, just ping me if you can. If I don't get a  
ping, I'll send an email instead...
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:53 PM 12/9/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> I sure hope so.  About to head that way and see if they allow Skype.
>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>
>> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
>> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>>
>> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>>
>> Brett
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>>> never do java classes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors  
>>> to make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working  
>>> on building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course,  
>>> the LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime  
>>> operation, so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a  
>>> community, which overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we  
>>> should support him (both before and after profitability for  
>>> him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that reason, but  
>>> I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>>>
>>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested,  
>>> or front-load the session?
>>>
>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Tue Dec  9 18:19:52 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:19:52 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>

about what I figured on this....

-- 
Brian

http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Tue Dec  9 18:28:08 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:28:08 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] evals - take 2
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812091828k4adb32aj73e913b381788f5a@mail.gmail.com>

sorry, I guess I sent the version of the spreadsheet before the wife entered
all the info... here it is again.

-- 
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http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:00:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:00:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>

December is all empty.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> about what I figured on this....
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:01:22 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:01:22 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>

Ignore me

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> December is all empty.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> about what I figured on this....
>>
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>> http://www.au.org
>> http://www.venganza.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:31:33 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:31:33 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812100831u279c96f4i4d0b321072ecf4f4@mail.gmail.com>

consider yourself ignored.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:01 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ignore me
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> December is all empty.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> about what I figured on this....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.au.org
>>> http://www.venganza.org
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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>


-- 
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http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Fri Dec 12 06:25:04 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:25:04 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>

Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
continue the Collection presentation.  :-)

Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with a
bank acct etc...?

-- 
Brian

http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Fri Dec 12 06:59:45 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:59:45 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe  
> Paul can continue the Collection presentation.  :-)

I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps,  
a short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) --  
think of it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then  
just leave the rest of the time to networking.  We got some good  
feedback from Tyson and Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which  
concerned our very constrained, barely existent networking  
opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting Tuesday), so we'd like to  
fix that.

> Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then  
> with a bank acct etc...?

That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers,  
though we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if  
our plan is acceptable to their money people.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec 15 09:43:33 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:43:33 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
Message-ID: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>

This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week,  
the lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate,  
we will be officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to  
open the back account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see  
the bylaws before opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which  
bank are we planning on using?  BOK?  What's their policy?

As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up  
the relevant details.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From scentille at gmail.com  Mon Dec 15 12:33:37 2008
From: scentille at gmail.com (Scott Centille)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:33:37 -0800
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>

Jason,

We had previously discussed using BOK. So, after speaking with a rep, he
informed me that we would need the following:


   1. Articles of Incorporation.
   2. Tax ID#, aka EIN
   3. Signer(s) who are authorized to deposit and withdraw from the Business
   Checking Account.

The process should take approx. 30 minutes to complete.

Any other questions, let me know.

Scott


On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week, the
> lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate, we will be
> officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to open the back
> account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see the bylaws before
> opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which bank are we planning on
> using?  BOK?  What's their policy?
>
> As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up the
> relevant details.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec 22 19:48:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:48:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
	<d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>

Jason,

These look pretty straightforward.  Do you think we'll have a draft of the
Articles and our EIN pretty soon?  Perhaps we can get together the first
week of January to review them and sign on the dotted line.

--
Ryan

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Scott Centille <scentille at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jason,
>
> We had previously discussed using BOK. So, after speaking with a rep, he
> informed me that we would need the following:
>
>
>    1. Articles of Incorporation.
>    2. Tax ID#, aka EIN
>    3. Signer(s) who are authorized to deposit and withdraw from the
>    Business Checking Account.
>
> The process should take approx. 30 minutes to complete.
>
> Any other questions, let me know.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week, the
>> lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate, we will be
>> officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to open the back
>> account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see the bylaws before
>> opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which bank are we planning on
>> using?  BOK?  What's their policy?
>>
>> As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up the
>> relevant details.
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec 22 20:16:30 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:16:30 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
	<d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2BF3716-EE49-4000-A317-2B97D8D17E90@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:48 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
> These look pretty straightforward.  Do you think we'll have a draft  
> of the Articles and our EIN pretty soon?  Perhaps we can get  
> together the first week of January to review them and sign on the  
> dotted line.


Actually, I have our EIN now:  26-3912195.  I signed the certificate  
of incorporation Saturday (I'll attach it).  It just needed one  
signature and was very straightforward.  Hopefully, the bylaws will be  
done next week, but we are now a legal entity.  Do not sign for  
anything with your own name.  I'll verify the proposed/exact form in  
which we should sign, but the deal's done.

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Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com




From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 31 06:45:50 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:45:50 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>

Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
>> continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>>
>
> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps, a
> short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) -- think of
> it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then just leave the
> rest of the time to networking.  We got some good feedback from Tyson and
> Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which concerned our very constrained,
> barely existent networking opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting
> Tuesday), so we'd like to fix that.
>
>  Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with
>> a bank acct etc...?
>>
>
> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers, though
> we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if our plan is
> acceptable to their money people.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>



-- 
Brian

http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Wed Dec 31 11:39:15 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:39:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
	<ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <30EDCD19-1BD6-414E-A9BB-AE908F7CB0F0@steeplesoft.com>

We will need a sponsor, but I don't think we'll need a speaker, unless  
the idea below is rejected.  We have not opened the bank account yet  
(though we have everything we need to do so, now), so sponsors are  
still unable to... purchase the sponsorship levels yet.

On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:

> Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>  
> wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe  
> Paul can continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>
> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have,  
> perhaps, a short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy  
> to do) -- think of it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :)  
> -- and then just leave the rest of the time to networking.  We got  
> some good feedback from Tyson and Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part  
> of which concerned our very constrained, barely existent networking  
> opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting Tuesday), so we'd like to  
> fix that.
>
>
> Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then  
> with a bank acct etc...?
>
> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers,  
> though we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see  
> if our plan is acceptable to their money people.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
>
> -- 
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 31 11:58:30 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:58:30 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
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I just spoke with Mark Smith, Valtech will sponsor the January 13th meeting.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> We will need a sponsor, but I don't think we'll need a speaker, unless the
> idea below is rejected.  We have not opened the bank account yet (though we
> have everything we need to do so, now), so sponsors are still unable to...
> purchase the sponsorship levels yet.
>
> On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
> Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
>>> continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>>>
>>
>> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps, a
>> short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) -- think of
>> it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then just leave the
>> rest of the time to networking.  We got some good feedback from Tyson and
>> Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which concerned our very constrained,
>> barely existent networking opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting
>> Tuesday), so we'd like to fix that.
>>
>>  Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with
>>> a bank acct etc...?
>>>
>>
>> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers, though
>> we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if our plan is
>> acceptable to their money people.
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
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>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
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>


-- 
Brian

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http://www.au.org
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 12:39:51 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:39:51 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>

I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.

-- 
Brian

http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  1 12:45:07 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:45:07 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or  
> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.


OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what  
we're about to launch will prevent this in the future.

BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From paul0731 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 12:51:02 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:51:02 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
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References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
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Sorry, I've been way to busy  as of late.

Paul Smith
810 Willow Run
Yukon, Ok 73099
*
*International Environmental Corporation?
5000 W I 40 Service Rd <http://maps.google.com/>
Oklahoma City, OK 73128
<http://maps.google.com/>
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
>> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.
>>
>
>
> OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what we're
> about to launch will prevent this in the future.
>
> BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 13:12:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:12:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
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	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
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Really?  Thought I had already sent it

Ryan Hoegg
2224 NW 54th st
Oklahoma City, OK 73112

Valtech
1015 N Broadway Ave # 300
Oklahoma City, OK 73102

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 1, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> I just talked to Shawn Turner at L3 and he will let me know today or
>> tomorrow whether they will sponsor our meeting next Tuesday.
>>
>
>
> OK.  Thanks.  We're cutting it close on this one.  Hopefully, what we're
> about to launch will prevent this in the future.
>
> BTW, I'm still waiting for information from Paul and Ryan.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  1 13:42:24 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:42:24 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] dec sponsor
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References: <ca24cc950812011239m2398851ey6a312063ecae339f@mail.gmail.com>
	<77794BE0-6134-4767-AD59-E37CC9AA90E6@steeplesoft.com>
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On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:12 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Really?  Thought I had already sent it


If you did, I missed it. :P  Either way, the info is off to the  
lawyers.  Thanks, guys.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec  3 16:41:38 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:41:38 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting Sponsorships
idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about what kinds
of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some about
exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What other
ideas do you have?

Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
Ryan, do either of those days work for you?

Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be involved
at this stage?

--ryan
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 16:46:01 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:46:01 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bc6e4d50812031641u61a65ed8hc1a6b5ee9296f7e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812041646g53216664y8a23aff65be61403@mail.gmail.com>

Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?

Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.

--ryan

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting Sponsorships
> idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about what kinds
> of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some about
> exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What other
> ideas do you have?
>
> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>
> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
> involved at this stage?
>
> --ryan
>
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:24:03 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:24:03 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>

What time and where says the lost guy?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech,
and Ryan seems to be saying lunch and ? for the location.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
> go.
>
> B
>
> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>
> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>> other ideas do you have?
>>
>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>
>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>> involved at this stage?
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:24:43 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:24:43 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>

This thread is about the recruiting lunch on Wednesday.  I think tomorrow
morning is about the classes, right?

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:

> What time and where?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech, and Ryan seems to
> be saying lunch.  I'm just lost.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>> go.
>>
>> B
>>
>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>
>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
>> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
>> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>
>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>
>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>> involved at this stage?
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
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>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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>>
>
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:25:11 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:25:11 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041824u5b99ef3du5e7df429a559b6c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041825o5a547c3dk11a759515d60c7b4@mail.gmail.com>

The lost guy that keeps sending out the same email.  This is what happens
when I write unit test for java comparators to show why they should
implement serializable.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:

> What time and where says the lost guy?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech,
> and Ryan seems to be saying lunch and ? for the location.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>> go.
>>
>> B
>>
>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>
>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us plan
>> this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested in
>> participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>
>> --ryan
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>
>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>
>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>> involved at this stage?
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:33:14 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:33:14 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKCJUG recruiting sponsorship: planning
	meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <482063.61267.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e988509e0812041809n71841f47mda0acfcc33beb439@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812041824q3964aa7eg2a8d0217f8ad5f14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e988509e0812041833i1841c970sf6fd1ee16cfdf0db@mail.gmail.com>

Well Wednesday I can do, probably need to talk to the flesh traders anyway
given all the layoffs and order cancellations happening at work.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:24 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> This thread is about the recruiting lunch on Wednesday.  I think tomorrow
> morning is about the classes, right?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Paul Smith <paul0731 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What time and where?  Brett is saying 6 am and Valtech, and Ryan seems to
>> be saying lunch.  I'm just lost.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> So where's Valtech? I don't want to get up at 5:30 to not know where to
>>> go.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> Free tutorials:     <http://schuchert.wikispaces.com>
>>> http://schuchert.wikispaces.com
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:46 PM, "ryan hoegg" <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ryan can do the 10th as well.  What about the rest of the steering
>>> committee?  How many can make it next Wednesday?
>>>
>>> Also, if you guys know any other recruiters who might want to help us
>>> plan this, please invite them.  The others I've talked to seemed interested
>>> in participating, but probably not planning it.  I could be wrong.
>>>
>>> --ryan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, ryan hoegg < <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>
>>> ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Ryan and Tyson have both shown interest in the 2009 Recruiting
>>>> Sponsorships idea.  I'd like to get together over lunch and brainstorm about
>>>> what kinds of things we can offer the sponsors in return. We've talked some
>>>> about exclusive access to the job board.  A job fair has also come up.  What
>>>> other ideas do you have?
>>>>
>>>> Tyson is free for lunch next Wednesday and Friday (the 10th and 12th).
>>>> Ryan, do either of those days work for you?
>>>>
>>>> Steering committee, are there other recruiters who might want to be
>>>> involved at this stage?
>>>>
>>>> --ryan
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:48:15 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:48:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with tomorrow's
agenda?  My memory must have a leak.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow morning
>> at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly, this is
>> the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is that
>> right?
>>
>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe Coffee
>> Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some more at
>> 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>
>> See you tomorrow!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>
>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>
>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
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From paul0731 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 18:51:44 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:51:44 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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I was not there either, hence our confusion.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with tomorrow's
> agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow
>>> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly,
>>> this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is
>>> that right?
>>>
>>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe Coffee
>>> Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some more at
>>> 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>>
>>> See you tomorrow!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>>
>>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>> http://www.au.org
>> http://www.venganza.org
>>
>
>
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Thu Dec  4 19:35:03 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:35:03 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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Yes, tomorrow we are going to discuss... let's jog the ol' FlabbyRAM...
* Possible class/training options
* Sponsorship levels
* Annual funding goals
* OU football, and how the Sooners are clearly the best team in  
college football today :)

6:00am.  See you there.  I may bring my own coffee, though.  Gonna  
need an earlier jolt. ;)

On Dec 4, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Paul Smith wrote:

> I was not there either, hence our confusion.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with  
> tomorrow's agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow  
> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember  
> correctly, this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will  
> be offering.  Is that right?
>
> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe  
> Coffee Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get  
> some more at 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>
> See you tomorrow!
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>  
> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>
> We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>
>
> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 19:53:20 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:53:20 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee]
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Thanks for the info. See ya there.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> Yes, tomorrow we are going to discuss... let's jog the ol' FlabbyRAM...*
> Possible class/training options
> * Sponsorship levels
> * Annual funding goals
> * OU football, and how the Sooners are clearly the best team in college
> football today :)
>
> 6:00am.  See you there.  I may bring my own coffee, though.  Gonna need an
> earlier jolt. ;)
>
> On Dec 4, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
>
> I was not there either, hence our confusion.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:48 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Brian wasn't at the Panera meeting.  Jason, could you reply with
>> tomorrow's agenda?  My memory must have a leak.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> huh? new classes? sounds like a Valtech meeting?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry for waiting so long to confirm.  Yes, we are on for tomorrow
>>>> morning at 6am at the Valtech Proximity Center.  If I remember correctly,
>>>> this is the planning meeting for the new classes we will be offering.  Is
>>>> that right?
>>>>
>>>> Valtech is at 1015 N Broadway Ave, #201, Oklahoma City.  I believe
>>>> Coffee Slingers opens at 6:30am, so come caffeinated and we can get some
>>>> more at 6:30.  Let's meet on the third floor.
>>>>
>>>> See you tomorrow!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  We meeting at 6 am tomorrow? If so, where is the Valtech office?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know we are.  Ryan?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.au.org
>>> http://www.venganza.org
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 09:35:53 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:35:53 +0000
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sc at lists.okcjug.org, you are invited to

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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 10:55:06 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:55:06 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
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Don't forget to register for this incredible, one time, event:
http://okcjug.org/index.php?option=com_attend_events&task=view&id=28

if you don't register, you don't get to be in the drawing for the door
prizes and you may not be allowed to eat the food.

there *may* be a special, one-of-a-kind, door prize provided by Paul and I.

brian

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Subject: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
To: jug at okcjug.org


Good morning!  We are now less than a week away from our December meeting.
 This month, first time presenters Paul Smith and Brian Sheldon will be
presenting on the Java Collections Framework.

If you plan on attending, please be sure to stop by the web site and
register so we can get a good head count for the lunch order, and, of
course, so you can be entered to win the door prize.

http://okcjug.org/

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com



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From hobione at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 11:39:13 2008
From: hobione at gmail.com (HobiOne)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 13:39:13 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
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Looking forward to, Brian.



On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> Don't forget to register for this incredible, one time, event:
> http://okcjug.org/index.php?option=com_attend_events&task=view&id=28
>
> if you don't register, you don't get to be in the drawing for the door
> prizes and you may not be allowed to eat the food.
>
> there *may* be a special, one-of-a-kind, door prize provided by Paul and
> I.
>
> brian
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> Date: Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:22 AM
> Subject: [OKC JUG] December Meeting Reminder
> To: jug at okcjug.org
>
>
> Good morning!  We are now less than a week away from our December meeting.
>  This month, first time presenters Paul Smith and Brian Sheldon will be
> presenting on the Java Collections Framework.
>
> If you plan on attending, please be sure to stop by the web site and
> register so we can get a good head count for the lunch order, and, of
> course, so you can be entered to win the door prize.
>
> http://okcjug.org/
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jug mailing list
> Jug at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/jug-okcjug.org
>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>


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Thanks much.
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 13:14:27 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:14:27 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>

Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>
> Jason,
>
> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>
> Thanks,
> Derrick
>
>
> -- 
> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
> http://thirtysixthspan.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com



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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:27:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:27:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding classes...
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>

I'd like to mention a few things:
	- New offering
	- Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
Programming, AOP, ...)
	- Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an 8- 
week course $100
	- You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
	- Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
	- To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.

Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
questions in email first?

Brett


From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:27:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:27:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding classes...
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>

I'd like to mention a few things:
	- New offering
	- Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
Programming, AOP, ...)
	- Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an 8- 
week course $100
	- You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
	- Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
	- To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.

Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
questions in email first?

Brett


From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:28:19 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:28:19 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>

Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that +  
Derrick, could add up to some time.

I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to  
maintain the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
>> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
>> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
>> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
>> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
>> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
>> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
>> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 13:28:19 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:28:19 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>

Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that +  
Derrick, could add up to some time.

I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to  
maintain the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
>> Date: December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
>> To: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
>> Subject: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
>> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
>> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
>> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
>> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:54:26 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:54:26 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?

Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.

Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.

--ryan

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
> 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions in
> email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:54:26 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:54:26 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?

Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.

Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.

--ryan

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
> 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions in
> email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 13:58:15 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:58:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>

I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I think
he only talked for about 2 minutes.

What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
classes.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hum... Announcements ... Well I might be skyping in, so that + Derrick,
> could add up to some time.
>
> I think we should encourage such interaction - but I also was to maintain
> the speaker time. Maybe announcements after?
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
> Thoughts?  Especially in light of last Friday's meeting?
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *"derrick parkhurst" <derrick.parkhurst at gmail.com>
> *Date: *December 8, 2008 1:05:11 PM CST
> *To: *"Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> *Subject: **OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative*
>
> Jason,
>
> Would it be possible for me to say a few words to the JUG tomorrow at
> lunch about the collaborative and the upcoming events this week?
>
> Thanks,
> Derrick
>
>
> --
> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D.
> Thirty Sixth Span Internet Technologies
> http://thirtysixthspan.com
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> okcCoCo: http://okcCoCo.com
> OpenBeta: http://openbeta.extendedbeta.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickparkhurst
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ThirtySixthSpan
>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
>
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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:03:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <649F30A7-B413-4194-9F40-64C39BB2C41C@yahoo.com>

I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make  
the most sense.
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose  
> one and announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate,  
> specific topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and  
> continuous integration, dependency injection, or applied code  
> metrics (including ways to improve them).  Let's do our first  
> beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost  
> for an 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on  
> weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
> questions in email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:24 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:03:24 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<DB4E744F-7B6B-4770-B4AB-40EE0B986F10@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081354q44c7d810q3f8878250e8e55c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <649F30A7-B413-4194-9F40-64C39BB2C41C@yahoo.com>

I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make  
the most sense.
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:

> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose  
> one and announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate,  
> specific topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and  
> continuous integration, dependency injection, or applied code  
> metrics (including ways to improve them).  Let's do our first  
> beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
> I'd like to mention a few things:
>        - New offering
>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent  
> Programming, AOP, ...)
>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost  
> for an 8-week course $100
>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on  
> weekends.
>
> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer  
> questions in email first?
>
> Brett
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/

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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 14:03:56 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:03:56 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
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On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:

> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and  
> I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>
> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never  
> do java classes.


Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST  
thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so,  
from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps  
significantly with ours, so I think we should support him (both before  
and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him  
yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.

The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.   
Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front- 
load the session?

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 14:16:34 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:16:34 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
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The end sounds good to me.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
>  I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I
>> think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>
>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
>> company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
>> classes.
>>
>
>
> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to make
> them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on
> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST thing
> I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so, from the
> perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps significantly
> with ours, so I think we should support him (both before and after
> profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that
> reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>
> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.
>  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front-load
> the session?
>
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 15:31:21 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:31:21 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] My announcement tomorrow regarding
	classes...
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We probably shouldn't announce the Valtech location yet.  There may be
complications getting into the building without a badge on evenings and
weekends.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I was planning on taking a poll and asking which subject would make the
> most sense.
>
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:54 PM 12/8/08, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
> Not sure about so many possible subjects.  Maybe we should choose one and
> announce it, and look at alternatives if interest is too low?
>
> Also, I think we should do our first class on an intermediate, specific
> topic like AOP, concurrency, build automation and continuous integration,
> dependency injection, or applied code metrics (including ways to improve
> them).  Let's do our first beginner's class later in the spring.
>
> Finally, let me verify with Mark before you announce that location.
>
> --ryan
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I'd like to mention a few things:
>>        - New offering
>>        - Possible subjects (TBD): Basic Java, TDD, BDD, Concurrent
>> Programming, AOP, ...)
>>        - Not free, but subsidized by our sponsors. Approximate cost for an
>> 8-week course $100
>>        - You'll have to bring your own machine OR pair with someone
>>        - Minimum number of attendees for a class to pass
>>        - To be taught at Valtech Tech Center after hours or on weekends.
>>
>> Maybe I should start with a blast to the group and then answer questions
>> in email first?
>>
>> Brett
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From izhidov at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 15:55:38 2008
From: izhidov at gmail.com (Ivan Zhidov)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:55:38 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKC CoCo announcement
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You should let Derrik go first with his announcement. What he's doing is 
very beneficial to the entire OKC IT community and is pretty 
different/innovative.


From paul0731 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 17:54:32 2008
From: paul0731 at gmail.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:54:32 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
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It may be in the best interest of everyone involved to have brian and I talk
as short as possible :D

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:16 PM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> The end sounds good to me.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>  I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and I
>>> think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember, his
>>> company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never do java
>>> classes.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to make
>> them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the LAST thing
>> I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation, so, from the
>> perspective, he's trying to build a community, which overlaps significantly
>> with ours, so I think we should support him (both before and after
>> profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that
>> reason, but I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct one.
>>  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or front-load
>> the session?
>>
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec  8 18:19:01 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:19:01 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] OKC CoCo announcement
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On Dec 8, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Ivan Zhidov wrote:

> You should let Derrik go first with his announcement. What he's  
> doing is very beneficial to the entire OKC IT community and is  
> pretty different/innovative.

Certainly.  There's no doubt that what he's doing is of immense value  
to the community.  The main concern with respect to tomorrow is that  
we've already got a good deal going up front, so we need to make sure  
we get that done, and get the presentation done before people have to  
leave.  As I told Derek, I really don't expect people will leave while  
someone's still talking, but I want to give them that option (and  
still hear the presentation) if they *really* need to.  Aside from  
that, I asked Derek if the end would be OK, and he said that would be  
just fine. :P

Any other month this wouldn't be an issue, but we have the potential  
for being a bit long-winded up front this month, which, apparently,  
will make Paul happy. :)

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:43:05 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:43:05 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
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Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?

Let me know (skype me or whatever).

Brett
On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>
>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta, and  
>> I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>
>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may never  
>> do java classes.
>
>
> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run it  
> by you all first.
>
> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
> front-load the session?
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
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> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:45:44 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:45:44 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
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Why the f*(k is it, that when I send an email to this group 7 time  
zones away, it gets sent faster?
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:43 PM 12/9/08, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:

> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>
> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>> never do java classes.
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
>> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
>> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
>> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
>> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
>> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
>> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run  
>> it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
>> front-load the session?
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Tue Dec  9 08:53:46 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 10:53:46 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
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I sure hope so.  About to head that way and see if they allow Skype.

On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:

> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>
> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>
> Brett
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>
>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>> never do java classes.
>>
>>
>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors to  
>> make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working on  
>> building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course, the  
>> LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime operation,  
>> so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a community, which  
>> overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we should support him  
>> (both before and after profitability for him ;).  My gut reaction  
>> was to tell him yes for that reason, but I thought I ought to run  
>> it by you all first.
>>
>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested, or  
>> front-load the session?
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From schuchert at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  9 08:55:40 2008
From: schuchert at yahoo.com (Brett L. Schuchert)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:55:40 +0100
Subject: [Steering Committee] Fwd: OKC Coworking Technology Collaborative
In-Reply-To: <A02E1551-E223-41FE-B1B3-7358D9D0A7F1@steeplesoft.com>
References: <cc9aa0ef0812081105r677096a9pb5b6196bd929df4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6439F0A1-0AC9-47F2-983A-13C426B6F4C7@steeplesoft.com>
	<831936DA-5CDE-4CB0-99D9-FA86BDA1C2FD@yahoo.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812081358g47226dfex74f4b82ddef83588@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF034D33-4173-438B-802D-999E7CBB0CF7@steeplesoft.com>
	<62F4E6D0-EA90-41E4-8DA7-A4587AEF528B@yahoo.com>
	<A02E1551-E223-41FE-B1B3-7358D9D0A7F1@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <1FB12322-8ADF-4C0D-8409-473AB5A696EB@yahoo.com>

I've got skype running, just ping me if you can. If I don't get a  
ping, I'll send an email instead...
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:53 PM 12/9/08, Jason Lee wrote:

> I sure hope so.  About to head that way and see if they allow Skype.
>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:
>
>> Am I don't a think on the upcoming classes today? If so, what time?  
>> Can I still skype in to Jason's machine?
>>
>> Let me know (skype me or whatever).
>>
>> Brett
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:03 PM 12/8/08, Jason Lee wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:58 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it would be alright.  Derrick did this before OpenBeta,  
>>>> and I think he only talked for about 2 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean, "in light of last Friday's meeting"?  Remember,  
>>>> his company won't be doing classes for a while.  And they may  
>>>> never do java classes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, one of the things we hope to be able to offer the sponsors  
>>> to make them want to sponsor is time at the JUG, and he's working  
>>> on building/staring a business and gets "free" time.  Of course,  
>>> the LAST thing I want this to turn into is a nickel-and-dime  
>>> operation, so, from the perspective, he's trying to build a  
>>> community, which overlaps significantly with ours, so I think we  
>>> should support him (both before and after profitability for  
>>> him ;).  My gut reaction was to tell him yes for that reason, but  
>>> I thought I ought to run it by you all first.
>>>
>>> The consensus seems to be that my first reaction was the correct  
>>> one.  Should we then, put him up at the end, as Brett suggested,  
>>> or front-load the session?
>>>
>>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Tue Dec  9 18:19:52 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:19:52 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>

about what I figured on this....

-- 
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http://www.au.org
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Tue Dec  9 18:28:08 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:28:08 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] evals - take 2
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812091828k4adb32aj73e913b381788f5a@mail.gmail.com>

sorry, I guess I sent the version of the spreadsheet before the wife entered
all the info... here it is again.

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http://www.au.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:00:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:00:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>

December is all empty.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:

> about what I figured on this....
>
> --
> Brian
>
> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
> http://www.au.org
> http://www.venganza.org
>
> _______________________________________________
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> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:01:22 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:01:22 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>

Ignore me

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> December is all empty.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> about what I figured on this....
>>
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>> http://www.au.org
>> http://www.venganza.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 10 08:31:33 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:31:33 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] December evals
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812091819q1b52ae31sf975359808effb15@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100800n26a204e4y3322af1b43f47622@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812100801t4779facg7d8e427753bb4643@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812100831u279c96f4i4d0b321072ecf4f4@mail.gmail.com>

consider yourself ignored.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:01 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ignore me
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, ryan hoegg <ryan.hoegg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> December is all empty.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brian Sheldon <brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> about what I figured on this....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> http://bubbasslagheapnpdeli.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.au.org
>>> http://www.venganza.org
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc mailing list
>>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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http://www.au.org
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Fri Dec 12 06:25:04 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:25:04 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>

Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
continue the Collection presentation.  :-)

Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with a
bank acct etc...?

-- 
Brian

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http://www.au.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Fri Dec 12 06:59:45 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:59:45 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe  
> Paul can continue the Collection presentation.  :-)

I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps,  
a short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) --  
think of it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then  
just leave the rest of the time to networking.  We got some good  
feedback from Tyson and Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which  
concerned our very constrained, barely existent networking  
opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting Tuesday), so we'd like to  
fix that.

> Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then  
> with a bank acct etc...?

That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers,  
though we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if  
our plan is acceptable to their money people.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec 15 09:43:33 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:43:33 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
Message-ID: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>

This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week,  
the lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate,  
we will be officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to  
open the back account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see  
the bylaws before opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which  
bank are we planning on using?  BOK?  What's their policy?

As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up  
the relevant details.

Jason Lee, SCJP
Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com





From scentille at gmail.com  Mon Dec 15 12:33:37 2008
From: scentille at gmail.com (Scott Centille)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:33:37 -0800
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>

Jason,

We had previously discussed using BOK. So, after speaking with a rep, he
informed me that we would need the following:


   1. Articles of Incorporation.
   2. Tax ID#, aka EIN
   3. Signer(s) who are authorized to deposit and withdraw from the Business
   Checking Account.

The process should take approx. 30 minutes to complete.

Any other questions, let me know.

Scott


On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week, the
> lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate, we will be
> officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to open the back
> account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see the bylaws before
> opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which bank are we planning on
> using?  BOK?  What's their policy?
>
> As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up the
> relevant details.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
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From ryan.hoegg at gmail.com  Mon Dec 22 19:48:49 2008
From: ryan.hoegg at gmail.com (ryan hoegg)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:48:49 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
	<d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>

Jason,

These look pretty straightforward.  Do you think we'll have a draft of the
Articles and our EIN pretty soon?  Perhaps we can get together the first
week of January to review them and sign on the dotted line.

--
Ryan

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Scott Centille <scentille at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jason,
>
> We had previously discussed using BOK. So, after speaking with a rep, he
> informed me that we would need the following:
>
>
>    1. Articles of Incorporation.
>    2. Tax ID#, aka EIN
>    3. Signer(s) who are authorized to deposit and withdraw from the
>    Business Checking Account.
>
> The process should take approx. 30 minutes to complete.
>
> Any other questions, let me know.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> This weekend, I signed the Certificate of Incorporation.  This week, the
>> lawyers will work on the bylaws.  Once they file the certificate, we will be
>> officially a company.  Whether or not we will be able to open the back
>> account depends on the bank. Some banks will want to see the bylaws before
>> opening the corporate account, or so I hear.  Which bank are we planning on
>> using?  BOK?  What's their policy?
>>
>> As soon as I hear back that the cert has been filed, I'll follow up the
>> relevant details.
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc mailing list
>> sc at lists.okcjug.org
>> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
>> http://wiki.okcjug.org
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Mon Dec 22 20:16:30 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:16:30 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] Incorporation Update
In-Reply-To: <4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E7B2FAA0-701D-4588-90D9-DA2ACC9454EE@steeplesoft.com>
	<d8b3d6280812151233h29730c54p1aa09a9ffeae386@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bc6e4d50812221948s75143b2dp67db730851f07ab1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2BF3716-EE49-4000-A317-2B97D8D17E90@steeplesoft.com>

On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:48 PM, ryan hoegg wrote:
> These look pretty straightforward.  Do you think we'll have a draft  
> of the Articles and our EIN pretty soon?  Perhaps we can get  
> together the first week of January to review them and sign on the  
> dotted line.


Actually, I have our EIN now:  26-3912195.  I signed the certificate  
of incorporation Saturday (I'll attach it).  It just needed one  
signature and was very straightforward.  Hopefully, the bylaws will be  
done next week, but we are now a legal entity.  Do not sign for  
anything with your own name.  I'll verify the proposed/exact form in  
which we should sign, but the deal's done.

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Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
https://mojarra.dev.java.net
https://scales.dev.java.net
http://blogs.steeplesoft.com




From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 31 06:45:50 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:45:50 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
Message-ID: <ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>

Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
>> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
>> continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>>
>
> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps, a
> short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) -- think of
> it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then just leave the
> rest of the time to networking.  We got some good feedback from Tyson and
> Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which concerned our very constrained,
> barely existent networking opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting
> Tuesday), so we'd like to fix that.
>
>  Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with
>> a bank acct etc...?
>>
>
> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers, though
> we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if our plan is
> acceptable to their money people.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sc mailing list
> sc at lists.okcjug.org
> http://lists.okcjug.org/listinfo.cgi/sc-okcjug.org
> http://wiki.okcjug.org
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/okcjug/
>



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http://www.au.org
http://www.venganza.org
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From jason at steeplesoft.com  Wed Dec 31 11:39:15 2008
From: jason at steeplesoft.com (Jason Lee)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:39:15 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
In-Reply-To: <ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca24cc950812120625j1d8e9dc3uef9d3e29c515dce0@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E89696B-7050-4E5F-86FB-181DCEDA8ED0@steeplesoft.com>
	<ca24cc950812310645k3b0eed04r9c941207980ab70c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <30EDCD19-1BD6-414E-A9BB-AE908F7CB0F0@steeplesoft.com>

We will need a sponsor, but I don't think we'll need a speaker, unless  
the idea below is rejected.  We have not opened the bank account yet  
(though we have everything we need to do so, now), so sponsors are  
still unable to... purchase the sponsorship levels yet.

On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:

> Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com>  
> wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe  
> Paul can continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>
> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have,  
> perhaps, a short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy  
> to do) -- think of it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :)  
> -- and then just leave the rest of the time to networking.  We got  
> some good feedback from Tyson and Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part  
> of which concerned our very constrained, barely existent networking  
> opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting Tuesday), so we'd like to  
> fix that.
>
>
> Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then  
> with a bank acct etc...?
>
> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers,  
> though we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see  
> if our plan is acceptable to their money people.
>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
> https://scales.dev.java.net
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
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Jason Lee, SCJP
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From brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com  Wed Dec 31 11:58:30 2008
From: brian.s.sheldon at gmail.com (Brian Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:58:30 -0600
Subject: [Steering Committee] january sponsor & speaker
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I just spoke with Mark Smith, Valtech will sponsor the January 13th meeting.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:

> We will need a sponsor, but I don't think we'll need a speaker, unless the
> idea below is rejected.  We have not opened the bank account yet (though we
> have everything we need to do so, now), so sponsors are still unable to...
> purchase the sponsorship levels yet.
>
> On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>
> Any news on whether we need a sponsor for January 13th?
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jason Lee <jason at steeplesoft.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Brian Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> Do we have someone lined up to speak at January's meeting? Maybe Paul can
>>> continue the Collection presentation.  :-)
>>>
>>
>> I think the intent, at least from my perspective, is to have, perhaps, a
>> short here's-where-we're-going preso (which I'd be happy to do) -- think of
>> it as a State of the JUG speech if you'd like :) -- and then just leave the
>> rest of the time to networking.  We got some good feedback from Tyson and
>> Ryan at our lunch Wednesday, part of which concerned our very constrained,
>> barely existent networking opportunities (which Derrick was lamenting
>> Tuesday), so we'd like to fix that.
>>
>>  Should I get a regular sponsor for January or will be a corp by then with
>>> a bank acct etc...?
>>>
>>
>> That's a good question.  I'll try to get an ETA from the lawyers, though
>> we're still waiting to hear back from Tyson and Ryan to see if our plan is
>> acceptable to their money people.
>>
>> Jason Lee, SCJP
>> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
>> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net
>> https://scales.dev.java.net
>> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Jason Lee, SCJP
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> Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
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