<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I'd like to see a tag-team approach - should some of Stephens code, then show it in AOP... but that may be asking too much.<BR><BR>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Brett L. Schuchert <schuchert@yahoo.com><BR>To: OKC JUG Steering Committee Mailing List <sc@lists.okcjug.org><BR>Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 12:10:47 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Steering Committee] possible december speaker<BR><BR>I'm not sure the order is important but my gut tells me we should look at Stephen's solution first simply because it uses Java as is. The Aspect J stuff doesn't require a special compiler but it does require libraries and using the 1.5 class-loading hook.
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<DIV>On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:20 PM 10/31/07, Jason Lee wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV><BR>On Oct 31, 2007, at 9:56 PM, "ryan hoegg" <<A href="mailto:ryan.hoegg@gmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:ryan.hoegg@gmail.com">ryan.hoegg@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I like the two topics, and we could schedule the pizza and chit chat in between. Stephen and Brett, could you let us know what order we should schedule you?<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 10/31/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Brett L. Schuchert</B> <<A href="mailto:schuchert@yahoo.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:schuchert@yahoo.com"></A><A href="mailto:schuchert@yahoo.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:schuchert@yahoo.com">schuchert@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV>Well we could skip the hello java this week and instead have two presentations. I'm game.
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<DIV>What does the steering committee think?</DIV>
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<DIV>On Oct 31, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Stephen Maina wrote:</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Hi Bret,</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>In about two weeks, I will have my presentation pretty well having some structure to it, and I can accurately tell you how much time I may need. But anything betw 30 - 45 minutes would be excellent </FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Regards</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Stephen Maina</FONT> <BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<TD><BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><FONT size=3>It's all good...</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=3>We could do both. We should find out how long he needs to present. I know I can do a reasonable version of the talk in about 45 - 55 minutes. It would be interesting to see the two back to back. However, I'm just throwing that out. He can have December or not. </FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=3>Brett</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>On Oct 30, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>Stephen Maina (Valtech) has offered to do a talk on using annotations and reflection instead of AOP. (Brett - you guys oughta talk - I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say on his solution) </FONT><BR><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2> </FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>He might be able to do the December meetings (january for sure).</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
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