<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">And it doesn't have to be either or. I think either several smaller topics or lightning topics are a fine idea.<br><div><div>On Feb 19, 2009, at 11:02 AM 2/19/09, Jason Lee wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I agree with Brett. I would LOVE! to see something on Scala, because I'm too lazy to go do the reading myself. The Android presentation was arguably less practical than one on Scala, but was, as we saw, *very* popular. It's fun, sometimes... nay! a lot of the time! to take a break from the day-to-day job-related technology and look at what we could be using. That said, an annotation presentation would be interesting as well, but I prefer the former topic. :P<div><br></div><div>Either way, Mitch, I'm going to sign you up for February. You choose the topic and run with it. :)<br><div><br><div><div>On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:14 PM, Brett L. Schuchert wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>How is it that scala isn't practical. It's getting used in large organizations, it has a cleaner model for exploiting multi core CPU's ANC it runs on the JVM. In fact it can be run by starting the JVM directly. </div><div><br></div><div>As for annotations, love them. I also know of multiple large shops still on Java 1.4 and they are not using javadoc-based annotations. <br><br>Free tutorials:<div> <a href="http://schuchert.wikispaces.com"></a><a href="http://schuchert.wikispaces.com">http://schuchert.wikispaces.com</a><br><div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div></div><div><br>On Feb 17, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Mitch Blevins <<a href="mailto:Blevins@iecokc.com">Blevins@iecokc.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div> <div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">How about something more practical and approachable?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">There’s lots of things you can do with custom annotations to make your code better. I could do a When/Why to use Annotations presentation…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"> </span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Jason Lee [<a href="mailto:jason@steeplesoft.com">mailto:jason@steeplesoft.com</a>] <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 13, 2009 9:25 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> OKC JUG Steering Committee Mailing List<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Mitch Blevins<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Steering Committee] Feb 2009 evals</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">That would be awesome. I'd love a good intro to Scala. :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Paul Smith wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><br> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Let's just talk Mitch into doing one on Scala.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Brett L. Schuchert <<a href="mailto:schuchert@yahoo.com"></a><a href="mailto:schuchert@yahoo.com">schuchert@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">I'm out next month, otherwise I could do something on the new slim interface used by FitNesse for test execution. Maybe later in the year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br> On Feb 13, 2009, at 8:46 AM 2/13/09, Jason Lee wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Brian Sheldon wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">here it is. I've started new tabs and moved a column..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><br> <br> Wow. Roughly 60 in attendance and only 11 evals. Predictably, the lunch debacle was noted seriously a couple of times. I totally screwed things up there. My apologies. I'll try to get things lined up better next month. The price was right, but the location not as convenient as I thought it was in my head. Perhaps if we have someone from Hertz pick it up on the way we'll be better set there. We'll see.<br> <br> Larger room: Working on it.<br> Night meeting: Nobody was coming.<br> Door prize feedback: Looks like Brian's Think Geek idea might be a hit. Not sure about the game idea, as not everyone has a PS3, 360, or Wii, etc. Someone wants a cheeseburger. He can haz cheezburger!<br> Better grammar: Who? Where?<br> <br> Interesting and varied feedback. 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